200 grain sp for moose

Your mosin will easily get the job done.

My goto bullet weight for my 30-06 is the 165 gr. It is perhaps the best versatile round I have ever used for that round. If I want to go after a grizzly, then I use 220's.

I typically use 165's or 180's for black bear. If you want to see a representative video of the power of the 30 cal, go to the "Main battle rifles" section and look up the thread about the M14 and the concrete blocks. Yes, they are fmj, but the power is undeniable at 250 yards. That is a 308 with 150's.

Imagine the mosin with 200's. It'll be fine. Now tromping through the bush with that long rifle, that's another story.
 
The Finn's plant thousands of moose each fall with the Mosins seeing they had oodles of them left over from the 2 wars with Russia ,as well as the 6.5x55 ,my favorite moose drill loaded with 160-156gr RNSP's.....Harold
 
Mike Webb said:
Probably because they are popular rifles to take to the range and just blast away. You don't need softpoint ammo for that.
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+1. I would venture to say that not very many Mosins make it out hunting every year compared to plinking and fun shooting. That is a very decent price for SP ammo, though.


Mark
 
I've seen my fair share of moose dropped with .300 savages and 30/30's. I've used a 7mm-08 successfully... You will be fine. Like these conversations always turn in to... shot placement is more important than what you use to a large extent. Some of the local poachers, or others who hunt out of legal season use .22 magnums to some level of success. Of course you dont hear about how many get away wounded.
 
I have taken lots of bear and moose with 150Gr Hornady SST's. This past fall the black bear I shot was just over 100M out while the moose was ranged at 313M.

I did not recover the bullet from the bear (high shot on the run blew out his spine and four vertabrae) but the recovered bullet from the moose (heart/lung shot) weighed 128gr.

It's all about shot placement and knowing your ballistics. Being familiar with your gun and how it shoots at various distances will make or break the hunt.

The Mosin is more than adequate for what you want to do with it.
 
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I think people have just lost the patience to do it right and work to get a good shot at less than artillery range. They think that the latest super whizzy wonder magnum will do all the work for them with no effort on their part.
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Conversely, I wonder how many people don't practice, can't shoot for s**t and hope that stumbleing around with their total lack of skill and crap equipment will yield enough short range opportunities to scratch down a luckless mammal before they run out of ammo or season.:p;)

They can partner up with those that believe that if a cartridge is sufficiently anemic, that the rimfire level recoil will magically transform them into marksmen. They can form a support group with those who believe that being able to restock their ammo supply at mid-day will compensate for missing all morning.

They can all get together and discuss whether it makes sense that someone who has the interest and puts in the effort to become a decent long range shot would somehow lack the ability or interest to learn to stalk closer. Or maybe they can explain how someone who doesn't have the personal discipline to learn to breath and squeeze will none-the-less have the disipline to turn down shots that are beyond his ability?

Aren't blanket statements fun?:p
 
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mmattockx said:
I think people have just lost the patience to do it right and work to get a good shot at less than artillery range. They think that the latest super whizzy wonder magnum will do all the work for them with no effort on their part.

Apparently you have no concept of the practice and time and load developement, that goes into the ability to go out and effectively harvest animals at "artillery range".

PS I am a successful bowhunter, so I can also "do it right" in your terms.
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Dogleg said:
They can all get together and discuss whether it makes sense that someone who has the interest and puts in the effort to become a decent long range shot would somehow lack the ability or interest to learn to stalk closer. Or maybe they can explain how someone who doesn't have the personal discipline to learn to breath and squeeze will none-the-less have the disipline to turn down shots that are beyond his ability?
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c-fbmi said:
Apparently you have no concept of the practice and time and load developement, that goes into the ability to go out and effectively harvest animals at "artillery range".

PS I am a successful bowhunter, so I can also "do it right" in your terms.
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Long range hunting is not the same as an unprepared hunter taking a random long range shot at an animal just because he has a magnum. We weren't talking about hunters that make an effort to be prepared (long range or short), we were talking about the 10 rounds per year guys who have no idea what their rifle does out past 100yds, yet takes a 500yd shot anyway.


Mark
 
Boomer said:
The 7.62X54R has the same powder capacity as the .30/06 so is ballistically quite similar and the Mosen action is plenty strong enough to handle that cartridge's potential.
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The 7.62 NATO has a case capacity of 54 grains of water.
The 7.62×54mmR has a case capacity of 64 grains of water.
The .30-06 has a case capacity of 69 grains of water.
 
I've used both the 7.62X54R MFS and LVE soft points in 203 grains from Westrifle. They work quite well for anything that i shoot at under 200 yards. Took two deers last fall, One shot was through the boiler maker, and one shot was high on the back. Almost had the deer in two pieces. These rounds travel straight and have good penetration in wet news paper bundles at the range. I don't hunt with open irons past 200 yards, so can't comment on long range. Perhaps when I get a change to get out to my gong coming up this spring I can get more results.
 
I grew up believing the 215 gr 303 was the perfect moose rifle! Your choice is fine and the heavy bullets will drive deep on a big animal. If your new to moose hunting take the time to search up some anatomy pictures.

Good luck and be prepared to do some real grunt work! My dear uncle who homesteaded in Alberta used to say, we don't shoot moose around here unless they have two feet in the pickup box.
 
olympia said:
hey guys i am very new to hunting and am planning on going with an experienced hunter, can i take my mosin nagant with 200gr sp bullets? i am only planning on taking a shot from 100-150 yards but i was on chuck hawks website and he is saying .308 and 30-06 is bare miniumum and recomending big cannons. i was condifent i had it figured out until i read his article, is there anyone out there with real world experience? should i go with a mosin? or do i have to buy have to buy an anti aircraft gun
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I enjoy your spirit and enthusiasm olympia.
Practise shooting what you have.
And when the time comes when Mr. Bullwinkle is in your sights/cross hairs
and the rifle begins to shake with excitement, whisper quietly to her
to settle down a bit and take a deep breath............;)
Remember how the trigger was pulled at the range........:)
 
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