200 yrd chalenge/22 lr WHO`S IN
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See if you can get your hands on some RWS Rifle Match or R50, ELEY Match EPS, Lapua Midas or Center-X, or even Polar Biathlon.
You may even find some mid-range priced target or "Club" ammo that is consistent enough to work, but the odds decrease with these.
Try several types to see what your 22 likes. [They are fussy, trust me]
I have a CZ 452 American that is very cosmopolitan in it's ammo tastes, but it still shows a marked preference for a couple of types.
Run-of-the-mill bulk or value pack ammo will NOT be consistent enough at 200M to work. [absolutely forget copper-washed ammo]
Remember also, you need to shoot up to 20 rounds of any one ammo through the rifle to get a consistent coat of that specific lube in the barrel before you can expect
truly consistent results at long range.
Ask questions if you need to know more.
Regards, Eagleye.
You may even find some mid-range priced target or "Club" ammo that is consistent enough to work, but the odds decrease with these.
Try several types to see what your 22 likes. [They are fussy, trust me]
I have a CZ 452 American that is very cosmopolitan in it's ammo tastes, but it still shows a marked preference for a couple of types.
Run-of-the-mill bulk or value pack ammo will NOT be consistent enough at 200M to work. [absolutely forget copper-washed ammo]
Remember also, you need to shoot up to 20 rounds of any one ammo through the rifle to get a consistent coat of that specific lube in the barrel before you can expect
truly consistent results at long range.
Ask questions if you need to know more.
Regards, Eagleye.
I'm in but no fancy match ammo or overly expensive bolt guns.. I'm determined to do this with my BB ruger 10/22 and either federal bulk or CCI velocitor. I know i can shoot an under 6" group at 150 with the velocitor, have not had the space till now to go past that.
- Location
- West Quebec
See if you can get your hands on some RWS Rifle Match or R50, ELEY Match EPS, Lapua Midas or Center-X, or even Polar Biathlon.
You may even find some mid-range priced target or "Club" ammo that is consistent enough to work, but the odds decrease with these.
Try several types to see what your 22 likes. [They are fussy, trust me]
I have a CZ 452 American that is very cosmopolitan in it's ammo tastes, but it still shows a marked preference for a couple of types.
Run-of-the-mill bulk or value pack ammo will NOT be consistent enough at 200M to work. [absolutely forget copper-washed ammo]
Remember also, you need to shoot up to 20 rounds of any one ammo through the rifle to get a consistent coat of that specific lube in the barrel before you can expect
truly consistent results at long range.
Ask questions if you need to know more.
Regards, Eagleye.
I have a CZ 452 as well, what would you say is the best for shorter distances 50-100
Even the CZ shoots the very best at 50 & 100 with top quality match ammo. [Mine likes the old Lapua Midas "L"]
However, out to 100 meters, the best ammo at affordable prices is [was] Lapua Super Club [Now marketed as SK Standard Plus, I believe]
ELEY Target and ELEY Sport work well also, and do not break the bank.
Best "Plinking" ammo is CCI Blazer, followed by CCI Standard Velocity, but these WILL show fliers at 100.
Keep in mind, your CZ may not like exactly the same ammo mine does, but it does not hurt to try some of these.
Good shooting!!
Eagleye.
Gargoyle; I wish you the best in your endeavors!!
Just a couple of suggestions, though.
Abandon the Velocitors. While being excellent varmint killers, They have two strikes against them.
1. They are high velocity rounds, thus far more susceptible to wind and destabilization as they drop through the sound barrier.
2. They are plated [copper-washed]. You will never see any plated match ammo, ever. Too difficult to control the copper film thickness.
But, if you can find a decent standard velocity, unplated 22 LR round that shoots well in your 10-22, you may surprise yourself.
I have chronographed a lot of bulk ammo, including some that are surprisingly accurate at 50M. [Winchester Dynapoint comes to mind]
The velocity spread is too great to expect decent results at 200M. You will have vertical spreads of 4" or more, even if windage is good.
Because of the vertical factor related to velocity, it is important when shooting longer range that the ammo be consistent, velocity-wise.
For example, a lot of RWS R50 I have here has a maximum spread of 5 fps out of my 541S Remington. The Dynapoints were 27 fps.
I'm sure you get the picture.
Enjoy your rimfire...they are a lot of fun!
Eagleye.
Steve Boelter in his book "The Rifleman's Guide To Rimfire Ammunition" showed evidence that a match chamber makes a difference. It can even improve the performance of mid and low end ammunition. A match chamber on a garbage barrel , however, will still produce garbage results and improvements will only be marginal.
Because the chamber dimensions are tighter with a match chamber some ammunition may not fit into the chamber thus limiting choices of ammunition.
Whether it's long range or short range accuracy it likely will not make any difference as atmospheric effects will have a greater influence on bullet flight at long range.
Basically - get a good barrel - install with a match chamber - start testing better grades of ammo to find a flavour of the month. An optional addition might be a tuner to optimize the performance of the barrel.
Because the chamber dimensions are tighter with a match chamber some ammunition may not fit into the chamber thus limiting choices of ammunition.
Whether it's long range or short range accuracy it likely will not make any difference as atmospheric effects will have a greater influence on bullet flight at long range.
Basically - get a good barrel - install with a match chamber - start testing better grades of ammo to find a flavour of the month. An optional addition might be a tuner to optimize the performance of the barrel.
RememberTheSomme
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- Location
- Nova Scotia
I was firing blaser 40solids and Winchester 40 solids on the weekend at 200meters from my bench rest with 4X. I had 5, B-27 reduced pistol targets set up, I say my stock 10/22 was producing 8" at best for 90% of rounds, with some terrible flyers with the Winchester and noticeable recoil/blast difference when they'd occur by checking in spotting scope. Even this stock gun may produce 4-5" with really good ammo, zero wind and a much better trigger,... but only those conditions could prove this theory for sure!
I'll keep an eye on this as I am building a 10/22 right now. Parts used will be a Dlask receiver, all Kidd internals (bolt, 2 stage trigger, pins and springs, etc), Kidd 20" match bull barrel (which should be here next week), Hogue over molded stock for now. Scope and rings just arrived today, Sightron SII Big Sky 36X42, Burris Signature Zee Rings with 0, 5 10, and 20 inserts.
sounds like a great set up ,look forward to hearing the results
Brutus
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Sounds like a great idea. In my rifle the most accurate currently tested beyond 100 was SK Rifle Match.
BTW, does anyone know of a western dealer that sells Eley red or black??
Have a good day............
BTW, does anyone know of a western dealer that sells Eley red or black??
Have a good day............
Here it is, finally got all my parts and assembled it last night. Went to the range after work tonight just to check function, it works great. Build consists of a Dlask receiver, Kidd 20" match bull barrel, Kidd 2 stage trigger, Kidd bolt, Kidd charging handle, Kidd guide rod, spring and buffer. Put it into a Hogue over molded stock for now. Mounted a Sightron SII Big Sky 36X42 mm target scope set in Burris Zee rings. BTW it does use a Ruger 10 round magazine Here are the obligatory pics.
Build consists of a Dlask receiver, Kidd 20" match bull barrel, Kidd 2 stage trigger, Kidd bolt, Kidd charging handle, Kidd guide rod, spring and buffer. Put it into a Hogue over molded stock for now. Mounted a Sightron SII Big Sky 36X42 mm target scope set in Burris Zee rings. BTW it does use a Ruger 10 round magazine Here are the obligatory pics.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
A 15 shot edit5.2 inch group. This could have been a very snug 2.75inch group, however a shifting breeze that I could feel mostly on the left side of my face kept me guessing until it became constant & predictable! I suppressed by frustration with the first three high and bewildering strikes, and kept plugging away with the next twelve shots that as you can see were much tighter together. I think I have to do a road run to Prophet River, to stock up match ammo now.
Cheers........
BTW, I usually have my crosshairs planted in the very LH uppermost corner. However today I shifted them further left, and the centre of my crosshairs was exactly half way between the two targets pinned up on this board. And for up & down, even with the top edge of them both.
The Weather Network says the local wind was 10 km's from the north today. Maybe 2 inches further of holdoff perhaps because of wind conditions? With my strange & compensated for sight picture of course.
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I have been building the same gun but am having trouble getting the KIDD 20" on the Dlask receiver . The barrel seems to go all
the way on , with lots of sanding the receiver , but the v-block won't go on all the way . I built another 1022 with the KIDD 18"
and Ruger receiver , and they went together easily . I haven't figured out the problem yet .
