2000 fps 50 grain 9mm liberty ultra ammo

A 50 grain 9mm bullet travelling at 2000 fps is quite astounding, however the question would be its practicality.

It will penetrate kevlar where conventional 9mm bullets won't.

I have some 70gr frangible 9mm that does something like 1700 fps and it cuts right through a level 2A vest. Most 9mm will not even come close to penetrating that vest.
 
huh. The FN Five Seven uses a wee little bullet and it smokes along a 2100 or something. How is that effective?

It's not, particularly, unless the guy you're shooting is wearing armor. Many of these rounds are designed to deal with specific problems, when you get outside of the target parameters they're meant for, their effectiveness falls off sharply. Loads like 115 and 124 grain HP are principally designed to cause large organ damage to people wearing regular clothing - in other words, they're designed for law enforcement and self defense applications against civilians. This is why you sometimes hear complaints about the SS109 round in the Middle East - the bullet was designed to penetrate armor and then cause injury, no armor - reduced wounding.
 
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50 grain 9mm. Makes me wonder about the degrees of accuracy this one delivers at normal pistol shooting distances.

Minute of chest is sufficient. The average handgun engagement distance is something around 7 feet. Just how much accuracy does one need at that kind of distance? I don't think accuracy under those kinds of conditions is even worth considering.
 
A 55 grain .223 at 2000 fps will do amazing things. An expanding .233 will be the same size as a non expanding 9mm. It might lack penetration but it'll make up for it with a great big splash
 
A 55 grain .223 at 2000 fps will do amazing things. An expanding .233 will be the same size as a non expanding 9mm. It might lack penetration but it'll make up for it with a great big splash
The big question is, what is the terminal speed and against what kind of target. Otherwise there would not have ever been a need for a cartridge such as the 6.8 SPC.
 
The big question is, what is the terminal speed and against what kind of target. Otherwise there would not have ever been a need for a cartridge such as the 6.8 SPC.

If I had the means I'd love to test varying weight hard and soft cast 9mm into ballistic gel, although it would be so short like a round ball, it might not grip the barrel good enough and tumble in the barrel. Maybe solid brass or sort is needed. The tokarev tt33 7.62x25 is 80 grains at 1600fps and it has impressive performance
 
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