2000+ yard cals
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I assume you are looking to hit somthing at that 2000 yard shot, not just reach 2000 yards? 
There are a host of great calibers that will take you out to 2000 within reasonable limits of accuracy. 50BMG, .416 Barrett, 408 Cheytac, 338 Lapula. These are just some of the common calibers that will do you just fine, when joined with the right handload and the right rifle.
My .02
There are a host of great calibers that will take you out to 2000 within reasonable limits of accuracy. 50BMG, .416 Barrett, 408 Cheytac, 338 Lapula. These are just some of the common calibers that will do you just fine, when joined with the right handload and the right rifle.
My .02
Yup. That'll do.
Thats a pretty wide open question and you'll get lots of response.
Some here have proven a 223rem could make that trip with accuracy.
Mysticplayer could show ya but I'm pretty sure lots will chime in about calibers or cannon, missile or projectiles that could reach that range.
Hell give me a long enough rubber band and sling shot I'm pretty sure I could send a bullet tumbling 2000+ yards.
Some here have proven a 223rem could make that trip with accuracy.
Mysticplayer could show ya
but I'm pretty sure lots will chime in about calibers or cannon, missile or projectiles that could reach that range. Hell give me a long enough rubber band and sling shot I'm pretty sure I could send a bullet tumbling 2000+ yards.
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Mortar.
Mystic Precision
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The big issue is scope elevation. There is nothing that you can legally shoulder fire that isn't going to need some serious scope base adjustment to reach those distances.
I have a mechanical scope base that gives me around 225 mins of up. I am working on getting a bit more. Then you have whatever the scope will give you.
I have shot my 6.5 mystic pushing 139gr Lapuas to 2300yds accurately. With the extra elevation, I am hoping to get out to 2600yds or thereabouts.
Yes, it gets bounced around alot but if you can get steady conditions, accuracy is decent. Will try some 140gr Bergers this spring.
The biggest hurdle you are going to run into is bullets. Some bullets will go subsonic and stay accurate/stable, others will not.
There isn't a single sub 50cal bullet that will not go subsonic at 2000+ yds. So all the paper numbers in the world will not help if your bullet tumbles. Unfortunately, there are precious few shooters who are ACTUALLY shooting that far to give feedback on stability and accuracy.
At the Summerland LR shooting this spring, we will be pushing a variety of large and small cals out to 2500yds, maybe a bit further (I think we run out of dirt at 2700yds). We will know in graphic terms what will make the trip and what will not.
The 223 and 308 will make the trip, given the right bullet, but the amount of up required is so high, it becomes more a mechanical issue then ballistic.
To answer your question directly, 6.5 Mystic or 260AI is the smallest I have used. The 7mm 180gr Bergers would be interesting to see if it works. Pretty sure the 162gr Amax can be made to work.
Then the various 30's and 338's.
We know that many of the heavies in the 30 (220, 240gr MK) and 338 cal (250gr Lapua, 300gr MK) WILL make the trip. Would think the 208gr Amax and 210gr Berger will make the trip.
Hopefully, the guys from ABC bullets will be able to push their 408's and BMG bullets out that far.
The Amax 50cal has no issue going that far and can do so quite accurately.
Just remember that when shooting that far AND if you have enough up, initial muzzle velocity is not that big a deal. It's all going to slow down. Accuracy, consistency and little vertical dispersion is more important.
Hope this helps.
Jerry
I have a mechanical scope base that gives me around 225 mins of up. I am working on getting a bit more. Then you have whatever the scope will give you.
I have shot my 6.5 mystic pushing 139gr Lapuas to 2300yds accurately. With the extra elevation, I am hoping to get out to 2600yds or thereabouts.
Yes, it gets bounced around alot but if you can get steady conditions, accuracy is decent. Will try some 140gr Bergers this spring.
The biggest hurdle you are going to run into is bullets. Some bullets will go subsonic and stay accurate/stable, others will not.
There isn't a single sub 50cal bullet that will not go subsonic at 2000+ yds. So all the paper numbers in the world will not help if your bullet tumbles. Unfortunately, there are precious few shooters who are ACTUALLY shooting that far to give feedback on stability and accuracy.
At the Summerland LR shooting this spring, we will be pushing a variety of large and small cals out to 2500yds, maybe a bit further (I think we run out of dirt at 2700yds). We will know in graphic terms what will make the trip and what will not.
The 223 and 308 will make the trip, given the right bullet, but the amount of up required is so high, it becomes more a mechanical issue then ballistic.
To answer your question directly, 6.5 Mystic or 260AI is the smallest I have used. The 7mm 180gr Bergers would be interesting to see if it works. Pretty sure the 162gr Amax can be made to work.
Then the various 30's and 338's.
We know that many of the heavies in the 30 (220, 240gr MK) and 338 cal (250gr Lapua, 300gr MK) WILL make the trip. Would think the 208gr Amax and 210gr Berger will make the trip.
Hopefully, the guys from ABC bullets will be able to push their 408's and BMG bullets out that far.
The Amax 50cal has no issue going that far and can do so quite accurately.
Just remember that when shooting that far AND if you have enough up, initial muzzle velocity is not that big a deal. It's all going to slow down. Accuracy, consistency and little vertical dispersion is more important.
Hope this helps.
Jerry
".416 Barret MSG, 56 mm long; 27,5 g heavy (424 Grains) BC 1,103 for 116 mm long .416" Barret;
Zünder RWS; 1016 mm Barrel + Brake, 279 mm Twist length"
(google barret MSG .416. first link there)
Gentlemen, this would do it.
Range[m] _ 0 _ 200 _ 400 _ 600 _ 800 _ 1000 _ 1200
Speed [m/s] _ 1032 _ 943 _ 884 _ 828 _ 768 _ 707 _ 648
Path [cm] _ -5 _ +97,5 _ +156 _ +164 _ +115 _ X _ -197
Wind drift [cm] _ 0 _ 3 _ 12 _ 28 _ 51 _ 82 _ 127
I want one
Zünder RWS; 1016 mm Barrel + Brake, 279 mm Twist length"
(google barret MSG .416. first link there)
Gentlemen, this would do it.
Range[m] _ 0 _ 200 _ 400 _ 600 _ 800 _ 1000 _ 1200
Speed [m/s] _ 1032 _ 943 _ 884 _ 828 _ 768 _ 707 _ 648
Path [cm] _ -5 _ +97,5 _ +156 _ +164 _ +115 _ X _ -197
Wind drift [cm] _ 0 _ 3 _ 12 _ 28 _ 51 _ 82 _ 127
I want one
Mystic Precision
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You might want to check on that BC. Recent Barrett article indicated that the bullets used had a BC around 0.75 so not overly spectacular.
Jerry
Jerry
105 and 120mm, lets not even insult the tanks in here. bring on the 10k targets !
It would just break your foot when you kicked him.
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Your foot would self-destruct!!!!11
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I think the 338Lapua and 338 Edge will just make 2000 yards with the 300gr Sierra at 2900fps.
Given a 200 yard zero the scope would need 80 MOA....A 40 minute base should get it very close with a 5.5-22X Nightforce....The NPR2 has another 20 MOA.
I think the 505/338 (Allan Magnum) wildcats will drive the 300SMK to 3300fps. That should get you to 2300yds (supersonic) or so with 80moa drop.
I think the guy that built the 338AM said accuracy went off the rails as soon as the 300SMK went sub sonic....Which is too bad!
The nice thing about the 338s is the ability to spot the hits (most likely misses)....Hard to do with the smaller calibers.
Given a 200 yard zero the scope would need 80 MOA....A 40 minute base should get it very close with a 5.5-22X Nightforce....The NPR2 has another 20 MOA.
I think the 505/338 (Allan Magnum) wildcats will drive the 300SMK to 3300fps. That should get you to 2300yds (supersonic) or so with 80moa drop.
I think the guy that built the 338AM said accuracy went off the rails as soon as the 300SMK went sub sonic....Which is too bad!
The nice thing about the 338s is the ability to spot the hits (most likely misses)....Hard to do with the smaller calibers.
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