2006 Ontario IPSC Provincials

Too bad, I'm off shooting a great US Match.

Enjoy the overpriced hotels (if you can get one) and the holiday traffic, with any luck the 400 won't be closed because of some idiot rushing to get to the beach faster than anyone else!

“Hey let hold a major match on the first summer long weekend of the year!….and let hold in it at our biggest tourist destination of that weekend! ….it will be so much fun…..I’m sure the wife and kids will understand…..”
:eek:
 
sounds a lot like a certain shooter from Burlington who shoots an H&K.

Enjoy the states, I will enjoy Barrie! To each his/her own.

PS "....our biggest tourist destination of that weekend!" Barrie is the biggest tourist destination of the long weekend? Who knew....
 
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black said:
“Hey let hold a major match on the first summer long weekend of the year
:eek:

Actually that would be the second long week-end of the year (and about the umpteenth time the Ontario Provincials was held on the same week-end)

Shouldn't be much of a surprise...

We're also trying to balance out the schedule (not pile up the Level 3's)

There's a Level 3 in Ottawa on the May long week-end...everyone felt early june was too early. We also have to work around the schedule of the host club (and the many volunteers)
 
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Gotta agree with Black on this one!

This must be another "tradition" thing. Goes along with the "sacrificing of virgins" for logic.

The thing that sets men apart from other animals on this planet should be our level of intelligence, and our means to use it to not make the same mistakes twice. Not always the case.

Do you want to try and find a hotel on the first long weekend in summer near Barrie? Oh yeah, you're gonna work and have it provided for you, right?

Do you want to travel up the 400 when the first long weekend in summer is here? Oh yeah, you're gonna be travelling in the off-time because you have a hotel for several days.

What about the 80% of shooters that will be coming up for just one day, either Saturday or Sunday?

I realize that we have to work around people's schedules, but I think you will also find the helpers shooting or helping damn near every weekend anyway. Poor excuse for the real reason........."tradition"


Glad I'm not a virgin! :D
 
Who needs a hotel?

Hell I have camped in my car for matches.

I set up my tent at a gravel pit.......

As for long weekends?

I for one think they are great.

The set up crew gets to get things going without taking more time off work.


Here is an idea for those COMPLAINING that those who work the match might get a hotel out of it.

WORK THE F'ING MATCH!!
 
People have to remember if you do not like the match or if you do not like when it is held simply do not go. As for people #####ing about getting rooms for working matches that is there least they should get.
Think about what these people go through to get the free room.

1) take time off work that they are NOT compensated for
2) work out in the hot sun for 3-4 days and still be pleasant to the competitors
3) spend a weekend in some cases a week a way from there family

The get to do all this plus much much more for a free hotel room
and still people bithch.

I have an idea if you do not like what is going on in ipsc ontario why not put your name in the hat for election or go out and help at matches.

It is always the people that do the least , do most of the #####ing
and the people that do the most are the ones that they are #####ing about.


just my 2 cents
 
Mobile1:

That wouldn't be #####ing, would it?

Try taking a little of your own medicine, and first find out who, or what you are talking about.

The conversation was about the LOGISTICS of the Provincials on the long weekend in Barrie. I don't know why this is so difficult to comprehend. Stand in the middle of the 400 on a long weekend. Go ahead, check out the hotels. I don't need one, but I am thinking of those who do. Been in that situation before, and it is very unpleasant to be fighting traffic on a long weekend, or paying exhorbitant prices for a hotel simply because someone "wanted" the match on that date for "tradition". I'm not looking for a handout or a free hotel room at all.

This all started by one person stating that it was poor planning to make the match on that day. I agree.

Everyone has a right to disagree, but to start berating someone because you THINK that they are whining or you disagree with them is chldish. The presumption that a member of IPSC Ontario does not "pull his weight" when you don't know them or anything about them is ignorant. And far from the truth.

People have lives outside of IPSC Ontario. If you don't, then get one.

Long weekends have been a tradition to spend with the family a LONG time before IPSC was even thought of. If you place your hobby before your family, then shame on you!

More than likely, I will shoot much more than the typical IPSC shooter, and shoot more matches in more places. I still help out with Black Badge courses, and with the regular matches weekly at my own club. That's not #####ing. I do appreciate all the help at the matches, and I wish others would do the same when I am working for them. I scored two stages for two days at The Nationals last year, and liked doing it. Not just because I had to. Some bought their way out of work. So be it.

Stormbringer:

I don't see how holding a match in the beginning of a long weekend, and ending it before the holiday happens makes it better. Somehow, I think that it doesn't help with the time off for work, when the allot of the work happens before the long weekend actually hits. The setup happens the week(s) before the match, and the holiday gives them a day of rest after the match. Sorry.

Again, my plans are already done for that weekend because the Provincials are posted so late. Not my fault. I have a match and hotel booked (and paid for) in the US already. I will probably be able to take the time off (without pay) to shoot the Provincials early though.

No, I am not sleeping in my car Stormbringer, I believe you would...... Will see you tomorrow at your match. Please don't ban me.:redface:
 
I would think that if you booked your hotel room tomorrow, you'd get it. Right now, it's snowing and blowing to beat the cars. They'd be glad to get an advanced reservation.
Sveral more hotels in Barrie than just a few years ago.
 
40cal

ya that is #####ing,.

1st) you say i need to find out who , or what i am talking about. If you want to know what I am talking I will say it again IF YOU DO NOT LIKE WHEN OR WHER THE MATCH IS SIMPLE DO NOT GO. As for who, I know people like you , you like to sit back and ##### about things but when it comes time to put their name on the ballet for elections to make changes they do not.

2nd) you talk about spending long weekend with your family is a tradition. I do not disagree as a matter of fact I agree with you. The thing is I find kind of odd is that if it is a "tradition" that favors you , you are ok with it but if the "tradition" does not favor you , you do not agree with it. Kind of a double standard isn't it?

3rd) you want to make this personal by saying that i am "ignorant", That I need a life out side of ipsc ontario, and let's not for get that if I do not spend the long weekend with my family shame on me fine lets talk about that.
As for being "ignorant" I do not think that I am the one that should comment on that I will let other people make up their minds about that. As for needing a life out side of ipsc ontario I can comment .I have a life most people would kill for. I own and run a very successful tool shop in Windsor , I have done more for my community in the last 15 years then most people do in a life time, I have a loving wife I have a LIFE with. I have a full LIFE out side of ipsc ontario. You say shame on me if I do not spend the long weekend with my family. I will let you in on some thing the people I travel with are as much part of my family as my wife , mother or my brother. So if that is shame then you are right shame on me.

4th) you say that you shoot more than the typical ipsc shooter and more matches in more places. That is were you should find out who you are talking to. I will help you out my name is Joe Robinson and I will put up my match schedule up against any thing you got. If you want to shoot the firecraker instead of the provincials thats fine no body cares.


To the mods I am sorry if I seam out of line but some times you need to speak your mind.
 
40cal said:
No, I am not sleeping in my car Stormbringer, I believe you would...... Will see you tomorrow at your match. Please don't ban me.:redface:


( best soup Nazi voice) " NO MATCH FOR YOU!!!"

LOL!!

MOBILE 1 said:
To the mods I am sorry if I seam out of line but some times you need to speak your mind.
No but I am going to nail you for grammar.

Its SEEM not SEAM in this case..............GEEZEUS!!!

LOL!
 
Mobile 1:

Perhaps you should re-read my statements.

I was not saying that you were ignorant. I simply stated that IF you follow those patterns, then you are. Nothing slanted in your PERSONAL direction.

I do know who you are, and I do know that you shoot allot of IPSC. Again reading well will show that I shoot more than MOST shooters.

That was not a personal slam on you, but a mention that a personal attack on me was unwarranted because you DON'T know me.

Again, you can re-read that I DO intend on going to the Provincials. This does not retract what I would like to comment about. We ALL have the right to say whether we like something or not. Doesn't mean that I will not participate in the Provincials, but you seem to think that I shouldn't be able to voice my opinion about it.


Stormbringer:

Thanks for the comedy break.;)
 
Opinions are like a55holes everyone has one. I'll admit I'm not that experienced and my match schedule is pretty thin, so what I type may not carry much weight with all the bigshot IPSC shooters on the forum. That being said I think Mr. 40cal owes a lot of RO's and the crew at Barrie an apology for his asinine remarks. If the folks at Barrie want to hold the match on that weekend, that's their decision. You know hotels are not overpriced if you book now and No ones being forced to spend the night in Barrie or spend the night at all. Hell a few years ago a crew from Windsor drove up in the morning shot the match and drove home that night, sure it makes for a long day but you only loose 1 day from your weekend and you don't have to get a hotle room. The 400 is not as bad as you make it out to be, I've made that drive for the last 5 years also on Labourday weekends, I'm not 100% sure on this but I think there is more than one road that leads to Barrie, can some one verify this for us?. No one else wanted to take on this work intensive task so they stepped up, Thank you for doing so. If it burns you so much why don't you organise and run the provincials where and when you prefer?? Otherwise STFU.
If you are so against doing things out of tradition why do you "Traditionaly spend long weekends with your family"? Did you consider that clubs choose that weekend every year for the provincials championships so that we can plan for it in advance? You don't seem to have a problem with Quebec putting their provincials on the Labourday weekend for the last few years. And you need to spend even more time on the evil 400 series highways. How long till you start complaing about the logistics of holding Nationals on the same long weekend every year? I think that you're just pissed off because you are going to miss the match this year due to a conflict with another match. With proper planing it's totaly possible to shoot both of those. If spending time at home that weekend was so important why are you shooting a USPSA match?
 
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Last time I checked we did not have a mile-long list of clubs offering to host this event, and given the experience of the people at Barrie, I'm sure this is going to be a blast.

It wasn't the first weekend of the year, but when they had the nationals in 2004 it was a long weekend (wasn't it?) and traffic was quite manageable, and I had no problems with getting a hotel room. I had to drive between Toronto and Barrie several times during the 4 days of the match, and never had any problems with the 400 either.

Having said that of course every location can't be great for everyone, so you pick and choose which matches you can go to. The Ont provincials have been held that weekend for long enough to have people expect it to held then again, should a club offer to host it. Barrie did, and that's what's going on. Hope to see you there. If not, too bad, everyone has a life and everyone has different priorities... No hard feelings about you missing this one, but you really can't complain about either the time or the place unless you are offering alternatives to both.

At least we're sure the poppers will be of proper size and all CROs will know popper calibration procedures ;) ;) ;)
 
2004 (for the Nationals) was pretty much my first trip to Ontario where I drove myself around a lot. I decided to go outlet store shopping on my day off (which turned out to be the Saturday). At lunch time, traffic was absolutely nuts on the 400. I ended up following some back road and made it back to Barrie in relatively good time.

If an unprepared, non-Ontarionian can find his way up along the backroads and avoid traffic, I'm sure a bunch of locals armed with maps can do the same.
 
The only part of Barrie that's hard to find a bypass around is it's south east perimiter.

As Doug mentioned, book your room now and you'll have no problem.
 
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