2008 IDPA Championship Guns Used

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I just received my IPDA fourth quarter 2008 issue and thought some of you might be interested in the guns used by the majority of shooters for the 2008 Championship.

Glock 34 (52 users)
Glock 17 (32 users)
M&P 9 (24 users)
S&W 625 (11 users)
Glock 35 (8 users)
Springfield XD 9 (8 users)
M&P .45 (7 users)
S&W 686 (6 users)
STI Eagle 5.0 9mm (6 users)
Sig P226 9mm (5 users)
Springfield 1911 9mm (5 users)

I just posted the guns used by the majority of shooters. There were many more guns used and the users were between 1-4.
 
You can find the results here: http://www.idpa.com/matchresults/2008_nationals/HTM/2008-10-01.htm

David Olhasso is sponsored by S&W and IIRC he used an M&P 45 to win CDP;

Bob Vogel won ESP and IIRC he shoots a Glock (17, I think :confused:);

David Sevigny is sponsored by Glock so I'm guessing he won SSP with either a 34 or 17;

Jerry Miculek won ESR with a S&W 625 (it's THE revolver for ESR :cool:); and

Curt Nichols shoots a S&W revolver but I can't recall if it's a K or L frame (I can find out if anyone REALLY wants to know ;) ).
 
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Donny Fenn1 said:
which pistols won?
McDonalds isn't considered the best restaurant even though they have the most....
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Did I say the Glock 34 was the best? I guess I can look up what guns won and post it. I do love Big Macs though! I think even though there may be better burgers out there the Big Mac would win in a worldwide poll. I am sure the numbers are tainted somewhat by endorsments. Plus if nobody finds these numbers interesting just don't respond and carry on.
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
which pistols won?
McDonalds isn't considered the best restaurant even though they have the most....
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....uhhh....none of them!...they are inanimate objects-remember?....:)

On a serious note I watched a few clips of this shoot on TV and I was surprised to see all the plastic guns -especially M&P's,my fave - just goes to show it's the craftsman not the tools that make the difference.
 
Canuck44 said:
Since I haven't received my journal yet could you give us the total number of 1911's used - all makes. Just curious.

Take Care

Bob
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Sure. There were a lot of 1911s...

Not Specified 1911 (1 user)
Caspian 1911 .45 (3 users)
Caspian 1911 9mm (1 user)
Colt 1911 .38 super (1 user)
Colt 1911 .45 (2 users)
Colt 1911 9mm (1 user)
Nowlin 1911 9mm (1 user)
Remington 1911A1 .45 (1 user)
Rock River 1911 .45 (3 users)
Smith & Wesson 1911 .45 (1 user)
Springfield 1911 .45 (1 user)
Springfield 1911 9mm (5 users)(missed this one on the 5 counts)
STI 1911 9mm (1 user)
Wilson Combat 1911 .45 (2 users)
 
Chris, I think next year you will see more 1911 in 9mm . Willson and Cobra are making Exc 10 rounds mag's now. Of course more people will still shoot the Glock.For the money it's a great buy.
 
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Chris, I think next year you will see more 1911 in 9mm . Willson and Cobra are making Exc 10 rounds mag's now. Of course more people will still shoot the Glock.For the money it's a great buy.
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I hate to admit it but after shooting more and more steel frame guns I prefer them over my Glock. There's no counting out the reliability of the Glock but I would much rather shoot my wife's Bul Storm, or a P226, CZ, STI, etc. Won't be selling my Glock though. ;) Might just have to make another purchase someday.
 
210

9+1 mags have certain advantages over 10+1 when shootng IDPA for ESP as do 7+1 mags do in CDP. A lot depends on stage design. I have found that often shooting my Trojan I was doing slide lock reloads having just finished my 5th double tap as opposed to having to go back to my 6th target with one round before moving on.

Take Care

Bob
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
which pistols won?
McDonalds isn't considered the best restaurant even though they have the most....
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And the corollary to that is that Jimmy Johnson won the Nextel cup in a Chevy, but we'll never get to drive anything like it from GM.

Just because a pro won with it, doesn't mean it's best either.;)
 
Canuck44 said:
9+1 mags have certain advantages over 10+1 when shootng IDPA for ESP as do 7+1 mags do in CDP. A lot depends on stage design. I have found that often shooting my Trojan I was doing slide lock reloads having just finished my 5th double tap as opposed to having to go back to my 6th target with one round before moving on.

Take Care

Bob
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and hence the term,..."gaming". :p
 
Maurice

Perhaps but if you start with 9+1 you must shoot the entire match 9+1 so it really isn't gaming. Up until recently 1911 9MM guns were imited to 9+1 unless you got your gun to run with .38 super mags that were available 10+1. Some did.

Some fellows swear that a single stack 1911 is more reliable with 7+1 mags in .45acp. Not sure on that but again if you start 7+1 you have to shoot the entire match 7+1 so I am not so sure it is gaming. Besides it is a game and I guess if you think you can play better with one set-up over another so be it.

As Sean just pointed out just because Dave wins with a Glock doesn't make the Glock the best gun for IDPA. It just means he won with the gun so too the winners using the M&P. Odds are though you will see both guns in the hands of more and more shooters until someone comes along and wins with the next magic wand.

What we have to try to remember is while the Glock or M&P might be the best gun for you it also might not be an another type. The reduced felt recoil of the heavier steel gun combined with the grip angle, the CZ/Tanfoglio, allows for slightly faster times.....for me. Sevigny would still beat me by an hour or two in a match but he wouldn't have any more fun shooting the match than I would.

Take Care

Bob
 
I have heard that some will only load the gun with enough rounds to shoot all the targets plus 1rd, so as not to have to perform a reload with mag retention,..which kind sounds like gaming. But,,.like you said,..it all is fun and a great shooting sport. At the NB IPSC 3 gun,..I purposely only loaded enough rounds in my Rifle using the 10rd mags to complete a string of targets,.and have the bolt lock back. Then loading the sometimes hard to feed 10rd mags was a lot easier, as I could press the bolt release on the move. I gamed it that way..LOL
 
Maurice in IDPA you cannot do that. All guns must be loaded to either division capacity OR the maximum the gun can be loaded to. If you start with 9+1 you must shoot the entire competition using 9+1 mags. So your SIG 226 must be loaded 10+1 and you cannot start with only five rounds in the gun.

The 19911 single stack user shooting .45acp must choose between 7 or 8 round mags and must then use one or the other for the entire competition.


Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
Maurice in IDPA you cannot do that. All guns must be loaded to either division capacity OR the maximum the gun can be loaded to. If you start with 9+1 you must shoot the entire competition using 9+1 mags. So your SIG 226 must be loaded 10+1 and you cannot start with only five rounds in the gun.

The 19911 single stack user shooting .45acp must choose between 7 or 8 round mags and must then use one or the other for the entire competition.


Take Care

Bob
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AHHHH!!!,...ok,...is this the same rules for CDP? SO unless I fill up the targets with extra rounds,...in order to induce a slide lock, I am stuck doing a mag change with retention?

I guess that it would be smart to use a SS 1911 in 9mm,..
I better look up the rules instead of asking this many questions.:redface:
 
If you are caught round dumping you can be assessed a FTDR which adds 20 seconds to your score. CDP = Custom Defense Pistol - yes.

Most folks I know just play by the rules as I am sure you want to do as well.

The 1911 Single stack in 9MM with 9 round mags can give you a slight advantage. Course designors do try to mix up their stages and if a stage is designed right all pistol/revolver shooters are faced with the same number of reloads.

Recent comments around by Area Coordinators I have been talking to are favouring shorter stages that require few if any reloads in IDPA keeping to the defensive shooting roots of our game. The Washington State Championships last year only had a couple of stages where reloads were necessary. Our BC Championships next summer will have more stages consisting of 8 rds or less per stage.

As an aside when shooting IDPA you want to shoot to slide lock as much as possible to avoid the reload with retention. Not always possible but one of the main differences between IDPA and IPSC.

Take Care

Bob
 
Huh?

Canuck44 said:
Recent comments around by Area Coordinators I have been talking to are favouring shorter stages that require few if any reloads in IDPA keeping to the defensive shooting roots of our game. The Washington State Championships last year only had a couple of stages where reloads were necessary. Our BC Championships next summer will have more stages consisting of 8 rds or less per stage.
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Well Bob, that is not necessarily good news. If anything guys want more rounds per stage not less. While a couple of stages of 8 rounds or less are okay, shooting up to or close to the 18 round limit is fun.

At the same time I would not really want to see it raised since the modest round counts are one of the things I like about IDPA.

I know our sport is based around concealed carry from the States but it is still just a game. The game has to be fun and not get hung up on trying to be 'realistic'. The rules we have now give it all the 'realism' we need.


John
 
bob, don't be so hard on him...

I totally see where john is coming from, for example we did that 9 target with 2 shots per target array and it was fun, shooting 18 rounds is a hoot, especially that one since it used 3 magazines as well. The guys at the club where stoked :)

yes we realize it is a sport, and yes we realize it is based on "real world scenarios" but once in a blue moon it is fun to shoot high round count stages and have someextreme fun while still staying within the rules....

remember at the povincials when we all heard thefirst big stage being shot and it sounded like WW3 was going on....we all broke out in big goofy grins :D :D :D

once in a while it is good to be bad :)
 
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