2010 PGW Defence Technologies Inc. Manitoba F Class Rifle Championship

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2010 PGW Defence Technologies Inc. Manitoba F Class Rifle Championship

Update June 15, 2010

The match is going ahead. Had a bumpy ride in the last week and a half hammering out some problems with DND but all has been sorted out and the match is a GO !!!!!

The early bird reduced registration fee of $350 has been extended until June 30, 2010.


The Manitoba Provincial Rifle Association is pleased to host the inaugural PGW Defence Technologies Inc. Manitoba F Class Rifle Championship on July 8-11, 2010 at St. Charles Rifle Range, Winnipeg, Manitoba.

Grand Prize: A PGW Defence Technologies Inc. Coyote Tactical .308 rifle complete with transit case and accessories. The rifle will be given away to one lucky competitor at a draw to be held during the prize giving on Sunday July 11, 2010. To be eligible, the competitor must have completed all matches on all three days of in the championship, be present at the draw and have a valid PAL.

For more information on the rifle please visit PGW Defence Technologies' website at http://pgwdti.com

Schedule / Course of Fire:

Be advised, that due to range capacity limitations, all matches will be fired in squadded relays of three shooters per relay alternating shot for shot.

Thursday July 08, 2010

0800 - 1200 Range set up, registration and rifle inspection
1200 - 1300 Lunch (at competitor’s expense)
1300 – 1500 Registration and rifle inspection (continued)
1300 - 1430 Open practice range at 800yds
1445 – 1700 Open practice range at 1000yds

Friday July 09, 2010

0745 - 1000 2 sighters + 2 and 15 at 800yds
1015 - 1230 2 and 15 at 900yds
1200 - 1330 Catered lunch
1330 - 1545 2 and 15 at 1000yds
1545 - 1800 2 and 15 at 1000yds

1900 BBQ @ PGW Defence workshop

Saturday July 10, 2010

0745 - 1000 2 and 15 at 800yds
1015 - 1230 2 and 15 at 900yds
1200 - 1330 Catered lunch
1330 - 1545 2 and 15 at 1000yds
1545 - 1800 2 and 15 at 1000yds

Sunday July 11, 2010

0745 - 1000 2 and 15 at 900yds
1015 - 1230 2 and 15 at 1000yds
1200 - 1330 Catered lunch
1330 - 1545 2 and 15 at 1000yds
1600 Prize giving

Registration: Pre –registration is required. Entries must be received no later then June 15, 2010. Entries are limited to 63 competitors. Individuals needing to cancel will receive a full refund up to June 15, 2010. Except by prior special arrangement with the match director, all competitors must register in person and have their rifle inspected on Thursday July 8, 2010.


Match fees: Match fee is $400.00.

This all inclusive fee includes target markers/pullers, catered lunches on Fri, Sat and Sun, a BBQ on Friday evening, one match commemorative golf shirt, prizes/trophies and cash prizes for each match and aggregate.

Competitors wishing to shoot in both F/TR and F/Open will be accommodated but must pay two full entry fees.

There are a maximum of 63 slots available so get your registration in early to avoid disappointment.

An “early bird” reduced match fee of $350 is available to all entrants whose registration and fee are received on or before April 15, 2010

Please make your cheque, money order or bank draft payable to ,,, edited at request of mods... SEND PM to prairieguy for details. Do not send cash. Questions or completed registration forms can be emailed and payment made by electronic money transfer (EMT) to dlmuir@mts.net .

Note: In order to proceed, the MPRA must have 40 registered and paid up competitors by April 15, 2010. If there are not 40 paid up registrants by April 15, 2010 the match will be cancelled. All registrants paid up by the deadline are eligible for a reduced entrance fee. In the event of cancellation all registrants will receive a full refund.



Eligibility: Due to insurance requirements and DND range use agreements all competitors must be a current member of a Provincial Rifle Association (PRA) and the Dominion of Canada Rifle Association (DCRA) [limited, associate, service or full member]. Proof of valid PRA and DCRA memberships will be required at time of registration.

For anyone who is not a member of a PRA / DCRA, a combined MPRA and limited associate DCRA membership will be available for purchase at time of registration for a fee of $65.00. The MPRA/DCRA membership form can be downloaded at http://www.manitobarifle.ca

Any foreign competitors who have proof of current membership in their own national rifle association will only be required to purchase a limited associate membership in the DCRA ($25) for insurance reasons.

Canadian competitors must present a valid Canadian Firearms Licence (PAL or POL) at registration. Non-Residents must present either a valid Canadian Firearms Licence or Non-Resident Firearms Declaration (JUS909) at registration.


Classes of rifle: Two separate rifle classes are recognized under the rules of this match, ‘F’ Open and an MPRA modified version of ‘F’ T/R (aka ICFRA Restricted). The differences are in the calibers, and rifle maximum weight. Competitor dress and aids to shooting: As per ICFRA ‘F’ Class rules. Muzzle brakes are prohibited.

F (Open): As per ICFRA ‘F’ Open Class rules. An ‘F’ Class Open rifle may be of any caliber up to and including 8mm and the overall weight must not exceed 10kg including all attachments (such as, but not limited to, its sights and bipod, if any).

F (T/R) “MPRA modified”: As per ICFRA ‘F’ Restricted rules except that any front rest will be permitted. An F (T/R) “MPRA modified” rifle may be .223 Remington or .308 Winchester or their commercial metrification equivalents. The overall weight must not exceed 8.25kg including all attachments (such as, but not limited to, its sights and bipod, if any).

Please be advised that any rifles (and attachments) to be used by a competitor during the match must be submitted by the competitor for inspection by the match director or his delegate (weighed, safe trigger confirmed, fore end measured, etc.) at the time of registration. Failure to submit a rifle(s) for inspection or use of a rifle which has not been inspected will result in the competitor being deemed ineligible and/or disqualified from prizes.



Rules: This is a Manitoba Provincial Rifle Association event. Endorsement by the DCRA as the 2010 Western Canada Regional F Class Championship is pending. All DCRA F Class rules apply with exceptions as noted.


Targets: Targets used in this match will be the DCRA long range target with F Class centre. In the event of extreme wind conditions causing the LR targets to become unsafe for use, the matches will be shot at 600 yds using a DCRA 300m target with TR centre (resulting in a .5 MOA centre at 600 yds). The decision to move to the 600 yd firing point is at the sole discretion of the match director.


Empty Chamber Indicators (ECI): Safety is paramount! Rifles will have actions open, magazines removed, and an ECI inserted into the chamber at ALL times except - - when on the firing line during the preparation period or during live firing. ECIs will be available for purchase the range during in-person registration.


Preparation period and procedure for clearing the line: At no time is a competitor to leave the firing line with a loaded rifle! All competitors are responsible for safe rifles while on the firing line. At no time should a rifle be removed from position with out the competitor having first placed an ECI in the empty chamber of his/her rifle. This fact must be verified by the competitor’s scorekeeper and the Range Officer. The penalty for violating this rule is disqualification for both competitor and scorekeeper.

At the beginning of each relay competitors will be allowed a 3 minute preparation period. The ECI may be removed but no ammunition may be loaded at this time. Anyone who fires a shot during the preparation period will be scored a miss for the first record shot of that match. Anyone who fires a shot prior to the commencement of the preparation period or during any other non firing period will be disqualified from the competition.


Coaching: Coaching is not allowed during the competition. Coaching is permitted during the practice sessions on Thursday.


Target Service: Competitors will not be required to pull and mark targets. Marking staff services are included in the match fee.


Scoring: Competitors will score. Individuals failing to perform the required scoring duties may be disqualified. Standard DCRA scoring will be used.


Fouling Shots: Competitors will be permitted to take up to two non convertible sighting / fouling shots at the beginning of the first match on Friday morning. The shots must be declared as non convertible before taking them or they will be considered to be the two allowed convertible sighting shots. These shots are included in the time allotted for the relay. There will not be fouling shots on Saturday or Sunday.


Other Prizes:
Jan 12, 2010: Krieger rifle barrel donated by Adams Lake Rifle Barrels. www.riflebarrels.ca
Other secondary prizes may become available and will be posted as and when known. Eligibility will be the same basis as the grand prize.
 
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Match bulletin continued:

Awards: The award schedule will be posted at the match. There must be five competitors in a class to receive an award in that class.

Meals: A catered lunch will be provided to all competitors on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The cost is included in the match fee. A BBQ supper on the Friday evening is also included. Additional meal tickets may be purchased for guests, spouses, etc. Please indicate any additional ticket requirements on the registration form. Friday BBQ is $20 per ticket and lunch is $12 per additional ticket per day.

Contacts: For letters of invitation, match programs, or additional information contact

Contact info edited at request of Mods.
send PM to prairieguy for details or to email to address below
Email: dlmuir@mts.net


REGISTRATION FORM (Cut and Paste as required)

2010 PGW Defence Technologies Inc. Manitoba F Class Rifle Championship

Registration Form

Last Name: _________________________ First Name: ______________________

Address: __________________________________________________ ___________

City: _________________________ Province/State: __________________________

Country: ____________________________ Postal Code: ______________________

Telephone #: ______________________________________________

Email: __________________________________________________ _


Rifle Classification (Circle or check one or both):

Open __________ F TR__________



Shirt size (S – ###L): ____________________


Match Fee: __________________________

2010 MPRA membership
(add $40 if required) __________________________

2010 DCRA limited associate membership
(add $25 if required) __________________________

Extra meal tickets: BBQ (@ $20/each) __________________________

lunch (@ $12/each) __________________________


Total Entry fee submitted: __________________________


Please download, complete and attach the MPRA/DCRA membership form if required.
 
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true, but there is some crossover. Still, way cool to see this match happening.
 
ATimberwolf was on the line at the BCRA Match last year. As Slavex mentioned, it is good to see another match happening. The more the merrier.
 
I'm not quite sure if our F-Class shooters have ANY idea HOW MUCH effort Les has put into making this happen, or what a task it has been getting DND on board!! This promises to be a fantastic event and it sounds like the BC shooters are buzzing about it! It is looking like we will have a good showing from BC.
 
Links to PGWDTI and Manitoba Provincial Rifle Association repaired. The match bulletin is not up on the website yet but will be there before the end of the week.
 
I don't want to sound like a dik, and I'm far from a "money shooter", but what kind of prizes are available for the minimum of $16,000 and max $25,000 entry fees collected?

I think the idea of a PGW rifle given as a prize is nice, but draw prizes are like 6/49 and can be bought anytime/anywhere... I ain't a big fan of draws, if a guy wins, he should win, not by a pull out of hat. And yes, I know the sentiment about everybody getting a chance to win the big prize, but I'm old school. Sometimes life ain't fair, and if you didn't earn it, you shouldn't get it. Practice more next time.

I'd love to compete in this, but I went to the web site, and it says, it doesn't exist. And the prizes aren't listed.

Shooting weekends are always good, but for some, it's almost a thousand dollar weekend to win a plaque????

I've run gun matches before and it's hard to figure out prizes without entry fee money up front, etc, but yikes a commitment like that is hard to make for a poor guy like me.

Again, yup my whole question sounds bad, I know, but I've shot at matches where it was a huge money maker for the match sponsor and the shooters got squat. And that ain't right.

I have to admit I was a bit miffed at the tone of your post, but you make fair comments. I have been highly critical of the CFRC and its 4-digit entry fees and excessively long duration. It has kept me from competing there. This sole DCRA match raises 6 digits worth of entry fees!

I too have run matches and ended up paying out of my own pocket because I know what running a full-bore match costs. target pullers (and getting something a bit higher on the evolutionary ladder than the bagel flunky at Tim Horton's) awards, facilites, incidental costs, targets, patches, these all add up.

I know there will be more than just the rifle given away too. My business is donating a barrel to this shoot.

Anyway, The caliber of this match and the fact that the infrastructure for running it is not owned by the MPRA puts the fees on the high side, but not out of line. The Canadian F-Class community has been begging for a showcase F-ONLY event and this may prove to be just that. I would expect that popularity of this event will dictate its future. It can only grow and get better with the solvency to do so.
 
I don't want to sound like a dik, and I'm far from a "money shooter", but what kind of prizes are available for the minimum of $16,000 and max $25,000 entry fees collected?

I think the idea of a PGW rifle given as a prize is nice, but draw prizes are like 6/49 and can be bought anytime/anywhere... I ain't a big fan of draws, if a guy wins, he should win, not by a pull out of hat. And yes, I know the sentiment about everybody getting a chance to win the big prize, but I'm old school. Sometimes life ain't fair, and if you didn't earn it, you shouldn't get it. Practice more next time.

I'd love to compete in this, but I went to the web site, and it says, it doesn't exist. And the prizes aren't listed.

Shooting weekends are always good, but for some, it's almost a thousand dollar weekend to win a plaque????

I've run gun matches before and it's hard to figure out prizes without entry fee money up front, etc, but yikes a commitment like that is hard to make for a poor guy like me.

Again, yup my whole question sounds bad, I know, but I've shot at matches where it was a huge money maker for the match sponsor and the shooters got squat. And that ain't right.

:agree:

The draw prize that is won by chance shouldn't overshadow the prizes that the competitors are vying for. This isn't some industry trade show where you try to keep customers to the very last hour in attempt to bleed them of their last dollar. Knowing that A PGW rifle is top prize would bring me out, and I am just a weekend varminter.

Good luck with your shoot. You might see me there! A carnival atmosphere with firearms...BLISS:D
 
I have to admit I was a bit miffed at the tone of your post,
I know, I ain't that eloquent of a writer, or speaker I guess for that matter. I just say what I'm thinking. Not with an intent to start problems or get anyone mad, I just think it's easier for a simple (ton) guy such as myself to say exactly in words that I can understand.

I applaud any effort to raise the profile of the F class matches and any shooting in Canada.
 
Wow, it took a whole day for the naysayers to find this thread and start complaining.

Koldt,

For a guy who doesn’t want to come off sounding like a “dik” you sure do a good impression.

I am more than a little disappointed at the drive by character assassination and your inference that I as match director am going to pocket a bunch of $ at the expense of the competitors. This match is being hosted by the Manitoba Provincial Rifle Association, I’m just the match director and chief cook and bottle washer. All revenue (if there is any at the end of the day) will be going into the MPRA’s bank accounts to act as seed money for the next time we host a match like this. My name is on the entry fee because it’s much more convenient than involving the entire MPRA executive in the finances as would be required if fees were payable to the MPRA. There is an organizing committee of MPRA members working in the background to make this happen, I’m the front man. I am obliged to keep them in the loop about revenue and expenses, not you.

However, since you’re not the first nor likely to be the last to ask where the match fees are going, I will provide some information. While I am not going to post the match budget breakdown on CGN for you to dissect and complain about but I will tell you this much…to host this match will require 20 staff, broken down as follows: 15 target markers, 2 Range Officers, 2 sentries (req’d by DND due to range template) and a stats person. Since no one is going to volunteer to stand for four days in the butts pulling targets, standing guard as a sentry or policing the line as a RO, all 20 these are paid positions. More than half of every $ that comes in will be paid out as wages to the range crew. First dibs on the paid jobs are going to our MPRA fullbore and smallbore shooters who are forever trying to raise enough money to travel to competitions and/or upgrade equipment. Should that not produce enough workers, our local Jr. Rifle programs will get a shot as will a couple of cadet squadrons.

The balance will go to things like portable toilets, targets, prize money, trophies and the luxuries I’ve built in such as catered meals, a BBQ and shirts. I could have run the match for a lot less money if competitors alternated between shooting and pulling targets for each other, brought their own brown bag lunches to eat behind the firing line and we handed out paper certificates and a handshake the to winners but that is not the kind of match I wanted to host.

Based on the minimum 40 shooters there will also be $2000.00 in cash prize money. Prize money will be paid out to the winners of every match and the grand aggregate using the 3, 6, 9 rule. In case you are not familiar, that means that for every three competitors there will be a prize, 1-2 competitors = no payout, 3 -5 competitors pays out first place only, 6 -8 pays out first and second, 9 or more pays out first, second and third prizes. I may even go to fourth and fifth place payouts depending on the numbers in each class. Actual $ value of the prize payouts will be based on the # of competitors in each class. For example if there are only 5 F TR shooters and 35 in F Open, the lion’s share of the prize money will go into the Open pot. If I get more than 40 entries, cash prizes will increase significantly.
Koldt and Hakx,

As for the method of awarding the grand prize I respect your opinions but they are not ones I share. It’s my opinion that the match winner is the least in need of a new gun. I also believe that giving it to the winner may cause more people to stay away than those who take your position. I don’t know either of you and as a consequence I don’t know whether or not you shoot much F class rifle but I will assume that you do not. Hakx, if you really are “just a varminter” and have never shot a F class match before, I am going to be honest with you and tell you there is ZERO chance you will win. There will be several competitors at this match who compete very successfully at an international level and a bunch more who compete nationally. Would knowing those guys are coming and that you have zero chance of winning the grand prize if it’s awarded in the manner you suggest make you just as eager to come? How do you think newbies or competitors who know they cannot win will react to a fantastic grand prize if they know they have no hope of winning it? I suspect it would have a negative impact on their decision to attend. Is it not better that you have a 1 in 40 (or at worst a 1 in 63) chance of taking it home even if you finish dead last? Those are way better odds than 6/49.

All my thoughts on the awarding of the prize are moot anyhow, PGW has graciously donated the gun at their expense and they stipulated that it be given away to one of the competitors in a draw, not to the winner. So what would you have me do, turn down the offer of a PGW rifle because they wanted everyone to have a fair shot at it?

Hakx,

I am surprised that you equate my match with a trade show. I am also a bit offended that you think I’m trying to squeeze nickels out of people. There are no hidden fees, pay the match fee, shoot, eat and enjoy.

The reason the gun’s being given away at the end and I expect people to be there is because I have both the owners of PGW coming to the prize giving to hand out the trophies and draw the grand prize winner’s name and I think it only fair that they have someone to shake hands with and pose with for photos.

Gentlemen,

In closing, if you are not satisfied with my responses, feel free to keep your $ in your pocket and stay away. I also invite you to take your rain and find another parade to pour it on. If you think the MPRA's match fee is out to lunch I encourage you to organize your own F class match and see if you can offer the same level of service at a better price.
 
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This sounds like an awesome event. I am trying to figure out how to tell the wife I would like to register and shoot; even though i have not shot 600 yards since 1994 on a range in Calgary, the barrel is not yet chambered and installed and I guess I could pull a scope off another rifle to make the new one work and load time. hmmmmm

PS.

I fully agree that as nice as the rifle give away is and we all want one, the guy that wins is likely the dude with one of the best set ups and trigger time to make things work. Pride and honor to winning your shoot. Pure joy and excitement for anyone that wins the rifle.

Good luck and me to, maybe i can get there.
 
Prairie Guy,
Good on you! While reading the whinners posts I was thinking "Why complain about the match setup on an open forum? If you don't like it DON'T GO or organize your own event!!!"
I think its a great way to get new shooters out and really get them involved in a competitive event that they can still win a great prize AND come in last place(my kind of competition).
Ivo
 
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