2013 IPSC Canadian Nationals
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Wow, as the owner of such a mission critical business is it really a good idea to take the chance and shoot the match?
I was there at summerslam last year and there was none. I bought an $2000 iridium phone so I will have service so as ivan stated that I can make business deals while not shooting and skipping the patching
I just checked Ebay and you can buy these phones for $495 plus shipping, why so much for yours
There is good cell reception standing on the berms if anyone wants to chance it I am sure there will be squad lists and such posted but we are still a month out guys. Also I can't remember ever shooting a match that wasn't at least 20-50 mins from the range. What is all the concern about distance now, I drive 40 mins to my own home range.
This is what I've got from the MD a month ago. A literal quote:
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As you can imagine we have received one thousand and one squadding requests and will try as much as possible to accommadate everyone but that having been said I don't believe its possible.
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Given that, it is just natural for me to start worrying and want to see the squad list.
Call me a jerk, but when I sign up for the match a half a year in advance and being one of the first registered for the match, I do expect a simple request to squad with people I am carpooling with to be honored...
With 3..4 people on the same car and each of them having different work/shooting. Imagine you take a 40 minutes ride to drop someone off to the range, then get back to the hotel to get some rest before your own shooting and then have to go back there in couple hours again. That doesn't sound like much fun to me...
I just checked Ebay and you can buy these phones for $495 plus shipping, why so much for yours
You need to do a little homework on iridium phones and subs etc.... Some are as large a small condo. The best and newest is as small as a early 90s cell phone. Prepaid packages for airtime are steep the more you buy upfront the longer that airtime lasts. 400 minute package give you about a 1.26 / minute airtime costs and a year to use.
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squad lists/work lists could still be not done, Maybe they are still trying to sort out who's working where based on the numbers of range officials they've got. As others have said, be prepared to be every day, all day until you are told otherwise.
Squad requests are just that requests. And lots of times, they don't work, for a variety of reasons.
When I shoot our Sniper match out here, we are there all day every day, in the hot baking sun, or the cold rain, or the blowing cold rain, then the hot sun. In previous years when your relay was not shooting you worked the butts, only coming out when it was your turn to shoot. Sometimes we had kids from various cadet groups to run our targets, sometimes we didn't. And you know what, no one #####ed. We are there to shoot a match, not have days off. #### what a bunch of whining.
Squad requests are just that requests. And lots of times, they don't work, for a variety of reasons.
When I shoot our Sniper match out here, we are there all day every day, in the hot baking sun, or the cold rain, or the blowing cold rain, then the hot sun. In previous years when your relay was not shooting you worked the butts, only coming out when it was your turn to shoot. Sometimes we had kids from various cadet groups to run our targets, sometimes we didn't. And you know what, no one #####ed. We are there to shoot a match, not have days off. #### what a bunch of whining.
Maybe it wasn't clear what went on at the Kingston Nationals 2011. To clarify what went down...
No one was "volunTOLD" to work the match!!!
Initially I accepted applications for dedicated staff positions. There were 26 positions to be filled.
This included 7 CRO's dedicated one to each bay;
15 RO's dedicated one to each stage;
1 RO dedicated to Chrony;
2 RO's as spares and worked with chrony in ammo collection/pulling bullets etc...;
and the remaining RO as a calibration officer.
(2 positions in stats were predetermined by MD and would be considered in addition to the 26 noted above.)
The way it was set up was the dedicated staff would run every competitor through their assigned stage. (Apparently some CRO's allowed the walk-on (volunteer) officials to run the timer. Which is fine because I'm sure that the dedicated official that was assigned to the stage was doing the secondary RO job (scoring).
I had more applicants than officials needed for the dedicated staff. Ontario also has a lot of committed officials that wanted to help in any way that they could to make our match a success.
I put out a voluntary sign up sheet for officials and non officials for those that wanted to step up for a half day or more. I was pleased to have at least 7 officials step up per half day to work as secondary RO for all of the bays.
Every bay at that Nationals had 1 CRO, at least 2 RO's (dedicated) and at least one "walk-on RO"
The intent was to have the assigned RO run every competitor through his/her stage for consistency. The walk on RO's were there to be secondary RO's (scoring).
When there were 2 stages in a bay, one dedicated RO was working while the other was sitting and relaxing. (If I didn't get a walk-on volunteer, the guy wouldn't be sitting but rather he would be scorekeeping.)
I believe we treated our dedicated staff better than any other year in recent history (as long as I can remember). There was a long list of perks. But it came with a $10,000+ price tag.
Was it worth it? ABSOLUTLY!!!!!!!!
So Chris, I truly appreciated you stepping up to the plate and helping out. You earned your 3 points for your efforts. It took a little of the work load off my dedicated officials. But in no way was there any pressure on anyone to officiate that match. The choice was yours.
I gave the competitors the option of helping out without being told to and lo and behold many stepped up.
Having been able to shoot matches all over, I believe this is the best way to go.
(PS: There is no reason competitors can't patch targets... personally, I get bored ####less if I am just sitting there waiting my turn while staff is patching.)
(And on a final closing note, this is in no way taking a jab at 2013 Nationals... I have shot the Summer Slam a few years back and it was an awesome match... I look forward to the East coast hospitality. And with Georges at the helm, I expect a smooth match free of controversy.)
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Wow just Wow. One of my friends showed me this thread. The volunteers for this match have been working since last fall. We have shut down our range for a couple of months so that we can labor to produce a superior match. Some members have raised thousands of dollars in sponsorship so the match could be affordable for all. We have extended our range by a million square feet in order to have adequate shooting bays, and are finishing them by hand with rakes and shovels. None of us are getting a cent, we pay the same entry fee as all competitors. We are doing it because we are hosting the Nationals for our sport. It is hurtful to those who have sacrificed, their time and energy for your leisure activity, that you are unwilling to reciprocate by patching, resetting targets and taking score for a day. That blessing us with your presence here in Dalhousie should be more than sufficient sacrifice on your part to create a great IPSC Canadian Nationals.
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SVISTI1911
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Well I wont go as far as calling you a jerk.....unless of course your really feel like one or just think you deserve it.
The thing is you and the other 200+shooters feel the same way. Do the math, there are a finite number of slots. There are teams to be squadded together, maybe sponsors and such, they would take priority over most shooters regardless if they were first to register or last. There are more requests for "special" considerations then offers to help, I know this first hand.
The MD can only do so much and his mind is on putting on a the match not saving you or other shooters carpooling time. If you want to be in charge of your free time then rent your own car and be the master of your own destiny. Don't complain about your troubles for 4 days at a match when the volunteers and organizers have been devoting their free time to this event for almost a year.
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