2013 IPSC Canadian Nationals

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Never said it was a shjt show. But once I found out the squad requests were being overlooked. I did say my hope for it to not be one was gone.
 
You really want to Talley up match experience mo? The important part isn't the paint on the walls or the fancy props. It's the challenge and quality of the target arrangements. It's the scheduling. It's the quality of the officiating. No I wasn't at the 2011us nats, but it was at 2012, 2008,2007,2005,2006.plus a few area matches, state championships, and sectional championships every year since 2003. Us nationals has a higher match fee to pay for quality match staff. They cover part of their travel expense. Cover their room/breakfast/lunch and give them a prediam for dinner. There is a line up of qualified ro's wanting to get on the nationals staff for a reason. If you order a gun from a builder and it's not built well, will you accepting worked real hard on it" as a viable excuse? Even if you know the guy who built it?

I simply asked you to state WHEN you attended ANY matches at Dalhousie to compare to your worldy experience oh great one. I would love to attend all the matches you have Mike, but I have a family and kids, full time job, rental property, small business...and other priorities. You have never been to Dalhousie to shoot = FACT.
I have been to a few matches half dozen Nationals, the USPSA Nationals, Area Championships, Provincials, AND.. most importantly...SUMMER SLAM! YOU,..have not.

If you are worried about all that stuff, and apparently according to you it is going to be a #### show,...and no one ever gets the nationals in Canada right, and the hierarchy of IPSC are corrupt minions of Vince Pinto,...why bother going? Seriously. I merely want you to show some manners to my friends and cut them some slack. I won't be replying anymore to this thread..if you want to contact me...you know how.
 
Maurice, it is not worthy to argue this. Mike will enjoy the match, I know, he will. He have spoken up about few concerns. Dalhousie guys are GREAT people, I can say it and mean it. BTW, do you have an idea when we gonna have our work schedule available and if we will work before shooting? Take Care and see you soon. Peter
 
Nope nvlever been to DH. Been to Vegas where they let too any people in and it jamed up the whole match. summer slam isn't relevant as its not a national championship. It's just a fun little level 3 with nothing on the line and fewer shooters. Nationals has far more weight to it and far more people to deal with. . I've seen clubs that put on great local matches get a state match and blow because all the extra details that needed to be followed were passed aside because they "knew" what they were doing. So your friends are deserving of more respect then others? I don't sugar coat my views for anyone regardless of whose friends they are. Why do people run and hide when they get called on their BS?
 
It's the challenge and quality of the target arrangements. It's the scheduling. It's the quality of the officiating.

Instead of criticizing everyone and everything and pissing everyone off, why don't you organize the 2014 Nats, so you can show us all how a great match is run by an expert?

Don't tell people how to do it. SHOW people how to do it. Sound fair?
 
...I have a family and kids, full time job, rental property, small business...and other priorities.

Mo, why do we care about your kids and priorities or how is it relavant to the issue Mike is bringing up?

You have never been to Dalhousie to shoot = FACT.
I have been to a few matches half dozen Nationals, the USPSA Nationals, Area Championships, Provincials, AND.. most importantly...SUMMER SLAM! YOU,..have not.

Maybe Mike wasn't there, but I was. More than once. And it is already evident that this Nationals match is not will be anything alike Summer Slam. More people, less accommodation available, new and different work requirement for the match. It is different enough to make any past experience irrelvant.

I don't thnink we are asking not legitimate questions, so we can plan our trips and for some of us it will be much longer drive than yours or any of your friends from NB.

BTW, it is MDs job to communicate to its competitors, unless you've been officially hired as PR agent for the match (but then you are doing lousy job).
 
Mo, why do we care about your kids and priorities or how is it relavant to the issue Mike is bringing up?



Maybe Mike wasn't there, but I was. More than once. And it is already evident that this Nationals match is not will be anything alike Summer Slam. More people, less accommodation available, new and different work requirement for the match. It is different enough to make any past experience irrelvant.

I don't thnink we are asking not legitimate questions, so we can plan our trips and for some of us it will be much longer drive than yours or any of your friends from NB.

BTW, it is MDs job to communicate to its competitors, unless you've been officially hired as PR agent for the match (but then you are doing lousy job).


Dr. Sheldon Cooper strikes again
 
so to recap approx. 15 (possibly more) pages:

competitors about to compete at a national event asked...

Q: competitors won't have to work mornings if they are shooting afternoons? thats just common sense right?
A: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, be happy with that.

Q: will you be publishing squad and work schedules soon?
A: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, don't bug them with silly details!

this was interspersed with ideas and cautions from previous (and unrelated events) matches, the response predictably (at this point unfortunately) was: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, stop calling it a #### show and disrespecting the organizers.

someone correct me if i am wrong in any of this summarization please...
 
so will the real MD please stand up and answer some of these questions - just cuz a lot more people haven't posted doesn't mean they aren't holding their collective breath for some answers...
 
so to recap approx. 15 (possibly more) pages:

competitors about to compete at a national event asked...

Q: competitors won't have to work mornings if they are shooting afternoons? thats just common sense right?
A: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, be happy with that.

Q: will you be publishing squad and work schedules soon?
A: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, don't bug them with silly details!

this was interspersed with ideas and cautions from previous (and unrelated events) matches, the response predictably (at this point unfortunately) was: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, stop calling it a #### show and disrespecting the organizers.

someone correct me if i am wrong in any of this summarization please...

Fairly accurate summary so long as you realize that the people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match.:dancingbanana:

The folks that are building the stages and making the schedule are not on gunnutz. Occasionally if they have something to say they will ask tweetyj to post information. They are not reading any of the concerns posted here. Should anyone have any concerns call Chris or Serge directly. Their contact information is on the Restigouche Gun Club website. If they can help you out they will because the people at Restigouche are awesome.
 
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Instead of criticizing everyone and everything and pissing everyone off, why don't you organize the 2014 Nats, so you can show us all how a great match is run by an expert?

Don't tell people how to do it. SHOW people how to do it. Sound fair?

wow someone else with a case of internet butt hurt. build me a range in Essex county and I will. thanks for not adding anything of any use or value to the thread. Everyone was already shown that its possible by the Kingston crew in 2011 but they choose to ignore it. if you don't learn from past mistakes you will continue to make them over and over again. the aspects which you quoted from me are the difference between a proper major match and an over grown level 1 with weeks worth of set dressing put on basic stages.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.”
― Winston Churchill

“Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”
― Ralph Waldo Emerson
 
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so to recap approx. 15 (possibly more) pages:

competitors about to compete at a national event asked...

Q: competitors won't have to work mornings if they are shooting afternoons? thats just common sense right?
A: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, be happy with that.

Q: will you be publishing squad and work schedules soon?
A: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, don't bug them with silly details!

this was interspersed with ideas and cautions from previous (and unrelated events) matches, the response predictably (at this point unfortunately) was: people at restigouche are awesome and they are putting on a great match, stop calling it a #### show and disrespecting the organizers.

someone correct me if i am wrong in any of this summarization please...

don't forget that this is also the largest, bestest nationals ever but nobody can give any quantifiable info as to why.
 
Because it is the truth. Were you at the 2011 USPSA Nationals? It was a good match,...but if you stood in line like I did for hours, you would not be raving about it. Stages were ok...not overly challenging and with the money going into it, I guess I expected more.... Your going off in different directions. You said it was a ####show...I did not realize you were given a pass for being ignorant and we should all agree with you. Being concerned about scheduling is fine, I would like to know asap as well. You were being a ####, ignorant and no one here has said anything to the contrary; in fact, you pissed off some people and passed judgement on a match you have never been to or even seen. You realize the match organizers have scene this thread, and were likely insulted by your comments. As far as I know, the only ones agreeing with you are Eugene and the guy with a $1000 cell phone.

SO ,...what is the important part of the match? Knowing who you have to carpool with and when you have off time? I thought stage designs and quality were important?


Mo you made a mistake.... it is a "$2000" cell phone (do your homework)
 
Mo, you can't make any arrangements if you don't know what to arrange for. Especially with everyone staying at different hotels over half an hour in every direction from the range. I for sure don't want to leave it for the last minute.

Call Enterprise they will pick you up!

I imagine that with all the extensive travelling you guys have done at the multitude of matches around the world you may have had to rent a car or two over the years.
 
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