2014 IPSC worthy pistols. Which one?

Do I understand this correctly?

In IPSC then, you don't have to use the thumb safety even thought the thumb safety exists on the gun, but if the gun is double action, you have to fire the first
shot double action? Do I have this right yet?

M
 
On a 1911 type pistol you must have the safety applied when holstering a cocked pistol.
On something like the jericho/baby eagle type or M9 pistols, you use the lever to lower the hammer and then put it back in the up position before holstering.
If your pistol is a selective action like the CZ, you have a choice of DA first shot in production or use the safety, start with it cocked and shoot in standard division.
Hope that helps.
 
the GP X-cal deserves a very serious look, I was very impressed with it when I reviewed it and if you could pry me out of classic div and force me into production its where I would spend my money.
 
So, if it de-cocks then it's your choice for shooting the first shot single or double action, otherwise you must use the safety.

Do I have this right yet?

M
 
No there is not a requirement to use the safety on mag changes.
I started shooting IPSC last year, I have a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow. All season I shot in Production class, which meant I manually de-cocked the hammer before holstering and shot double action on my first shot, my Shadow has an 11 pound trigger pull on DA :p I could absolutely choose to get that reduced to say 5 1/2 lbs, but this year I'm going to shoot Standard, so will holster "cocked and locked" so I shoot SA on my first shot.
 
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I have a Tanfoglio Limited on order and was surprised to see no Tanfos on the list. The Stock line is highly regarded and there are models for both production and standard. Of course there's the price issue.
 
Jim Guns said:
The safety has nothing to do with it, and anyone that says that it is the reason you don't see them much in IPSC are people that don't participate in IPSC. Seeing that you don't need to use the safety for IPSC why is it a concern?

The main reason you do not see many of the Jerichos are because they are just not a common gun. Most people will say either get a CZ-75 Shadow, followed by expensive custom guns and then a random assortment of the next few popular guns. Other than that, the DA/SA setup is a tough sell for some people.

IPSC is interesting because some of the top shooters have favorites, like the CZ as an example, so it's all moneky see money do. There are guys thagt have never touched a CZ that will recommend a CZ, all just because everyone is trying to be the next top guy because the current top guy uses a CZ.

You can only buy so much skill until it's all up to the person with the gun.
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I'll pay you a $1 for each of my competitors to switch from Shadow to Jeri-cho :)
If you shot competitively long enough, you'd know better...
 
karmadoc said:
No there is not a requirement to use the safety on mag changes.
I started shooting IPSC last year, I have a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow. All season I shot in Production class, which meant I manually de-cocked the hammer before holstering and shot double action on my first shot, my Shadow has an 11 pound trigger pull on DA :p I could absolutely choose to get that reduced to say 5 1/2 lbs, but this year I'm going to shoot Standard, so will holster "cocked and locked" so I shoot SA on my first shot.
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11# in DA means you are prolly at about 3.5-4# in SA...
 
CeeZer said:
I'll pay you a $1 for each of my competitors to switch from Shadow to Jeri-cho :)
If you shot competitively long enough, you'd know better...
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Of course they won't switch, remember the CZ will make them a better shooter. If you think that a D class shooter will all of a sudden become an A class by changing guns, well....

There gets a point where these things matter but for most shooters that are maybe C, D shooters probably won't notice. I wish I has a $1 for every time I heard someone say that you have to buy the current most popular gun in order to shoot good.

I'm not saying the CZ isn't a great gun, but the difference between the GM,M,and A shooters and everyone else is usually pretty big and miliseconds count in your every move. If you do compete you know very well that it's more than what gun you use, if you can't hit a plate sized target twice then it doesn't matter what gun you use, more than likely you need to find a new sport.
 
Do any of you have any experience with the MP-446C for IPSC? I've been curious about how they perform, but I don't know anyone that owns one. I imagine the biggest problem with it would be getting replacement parts when something breaks.
 
"Strike one " would be a best choice, if it ever gets here.. But the model thats coming is NOT on production class list....

I used a SP-01 for the first season, then switched to HK P30 LEM and never looked back, very happy with my choice.. No external safety or decocker is the best way to go for IPSC.


 
Tanfo stock 3 is what I run for IPSC. Definitely a smooth gun with little to no felt recoil with the right round. I find it much smoother than the Shadows as well. If you're looking for a new pistol, I'd take a look at one of these.
 
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