2015 Ontario moose tag #'s are out, WTF???

No doubt that the MNR has done a poor job of managing.....but that is not the only problem.....

Pretty tough to manage a species when the unregulated harvest of that species occurs on a very regular basis.
 
Waterfowler said:
No doubt that the MNR has done a poor job of managing.....but that is not the only problem.....

Pretty tough to manage a species when the unregulated harvest of that species occurs on a very regular basis.
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That is one issue... another major issue is they have no idea how many animals there are... the count algorithms are defunct and poorly executed.
 
It is truly disappointing about the MNR's miss management with the moose hunt but they are doing the right thing. I want to be able to hunt moose in the future. I think our group is going to Quebec or out west this year.
 
Waterfowler said:
No doubt that the MNR has done a poor job of managing.....but that is not the only problem.....

Pretty tough to manage a species when the unregulated harvest of that species occurs on a very regular basis.
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Agreed, and why does the Ont. Gov. or the MNR keep allowing it to happen?
 
blargon said:
Wmu 3 was overrun with hunters last season. There were camps around every corner.
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Hunters there tend to camp in the same general areas but there are many-many kilometres of logging roads, most leading to fresh cuts. I personally know of five groups that have been going there for upwards of a decade, none of them have ever been skunked there.
 
yorgi said:
Hunters there tend to camp in the same general areas but there are many-many kilometres of logging roads, most leading to fresh cuts. I personally know of five groups that have been going there for upwards of a decade, none of them have ever been skunked there.
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Lots of fresh cuts, but the moose avoid them due to spraying, and lack of food. Every moose i have seen there was in an old cut.

There were a lot more people there last year, due to the low tag quotas in surrounding wmu's. Hard to say what this year will bring with a late calf season.

Also used to be 2-3 people for a bull tag, now it is 8.
 
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It won't be long and there won't be any moose to hunt. There will always be moose in Ontario due to the vastness of the north, but between the MNR and natives, there won't be a huntable population.
 
blargon said:
Lots of fresh cuts, but the moose avoid them due to spraying, and lack of food. Every moose i have seen there was in an old cut.

There were a lot more people there last year, due to the low tag quotas in surrounding wmu's. Hard to say what this year will bring with a late calf season.

Also used to be 2-3 people for a bull tag, now it is 8.
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I agree, although the quotas are a known quantity the number of people applying to a particular WMU is not, this has the potential to really change the success rate. Up to now, even though the suggested group size for WMU was 8, the guaranteed group size (GGS) was only 2. My father's large group of 8 people keeps getting tags every year.
 
Waterfowler said:
It won't be long and there won't be any moose to hunt. There will always be moose in Ontario due to the vastness of the north, but between the MNR and natives, there won't be a huntable population.
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Agreed. Until we have a government with the fortitude to deal with the real issues, the moose population will not recover.
 
yorgi said:
I agree, although the quotas are a known quantity the number of people applying to a particular WMU is not, this has the potential to really change the success rate. Up to now, even though the suggested group size for WMU was 8, the guaranteed group size (GGS) was only 2. My father's large group of 8 people keeps getting tags every year.
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Short term results and satisfaction. Truth is, seeing first hand myself, the population IS declining there, and will be in the same boat as the rest of the province shortly. With the tags reduced in surrounding wmu's, more hunters keep moving in, and more non regulated groups.

Not sustainable, and no area will be exempt from the real issues. Especially with large non-regulated groups from Manitoba moving in for a 2 month hunt every fall and moose taken out by the truckload.
 
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I'm not sure if you guys have noticed. But (coincidentally) at the same time Ontario has all but destroyed the moose hunt, the cost of a non res tag in Quebec has gone up from $340 to $480!!!!

BIGGEST-SCAM-EVER!!

I'm sick of these pr1cks!!
 
hxxp://www.ofah.org/2015/04/hunters-bear-burden-of-moose-management-restrictions/

Some of what ofah and Sr Biologist Rykamn have to say.

Although I personally feel that OFAH has very little impact on anything, and is an overall weak organization.
 
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