2015 PRS Finale stats.

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They are starting to go up:
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/10/12/best-rifle-caliber/


Very nice description of what PRS is in the blog for this year's stats:

You know NASCAR? Yes, I’m talking about the racing-cars-in-a-circle NASCAR. Before NASCAR, there were just a bunch of unaffiliated, regional car races. NASCAR brought structure by unifying those races, and created the idea of a season … and an overall champion. NASCAR identified the top races across the country (that were similar in nature), then combined results and ranked competitors. The Precision Rifle Series (PRS) is like NASCAR, but for rifle matches.

The PRS is a championship style point series race based on the best precision rifle matches nationwide. PRS matches are recognized as the major league of sniper-style rifle matches. These matches aren’t shot from a bench or even on a square range. They feature practical, real-world field conditions, and even some improvised barricades and obstacles to increase the difficulty from hard to you-have-to-be-kidding-me. You won’t be able to take all shots from a prone position, and time stressors keep you from getting to comfortable. Typical target ranges are from 300 to 1200 yards, but each PRS match has a unique personality with creative stages that challenge different aspects of precision shooting. You might start off the day with a single cold bore shot on a small target at 400 yards, then at the next stage make a 1400 yard shot through 3 distinct winds across a canyon, then try to hit a golf ball on a string at 164 yards with no backstop to help you spot misses (can’t make that up), then see how many times you can ring an small 6” target at 1000 yards in 30 seconds, next shoot off a roof top at 10”, 8”, and 6” targets at 600 yards, followed by a speed drill on 1” targets at 200 yards and repeated at 7 yards … plus 10 other stages, and then come back tomorrow and do some more! Many stages involve some type of gaming strategy, and physical fitness can also come into play. For a shooter to place well in multiple matches, they must be an extremely well-rounded shooter who is capable of getting rounds on target in virtually any circumstance.

There are about 15 national-level PRS matches each year. At the end of the year the match scores are evaluated and the top ranked shooters are invited to compete head-to-head in the PRS Championship Match. We surveyed the shooters who qualified for the championship, asking all kinds of questions about the equipment they ran that season. This is a great set of data, because 100 shooters is a significant sample size, and this particular group are experts among experts. It includes guys like George Gardner (President/Senior Rifle Builder of GA Precision), Wade Stuteville of Stuteville Precision, Jim See of Center Shot Rifles, Matt Parry of Parry Custom Gun, Aaron Roberts of Roberts Precision Rifles, shooters from the US Army Marksmanship Unit, and many other world-class shooters.

Think of the best shooter you know … it’s actually very unlikely that person is good enough to break into the top 100. I know I’m not! I competed against a few of these guys for the first time earlier this year, and I was humbled. It’s incredible what these guys can do with a rifle. For example, the match in Oklahoma I was in had a station that required you to engage 4 steel targets scattered at random distances from 300 to 800 yards, and you only had 15 seconds! I think I hit 2, and rushed my 3rd shot. I didn’t even get the 4th shot off! But, one of these guys cleaned that stage with 4 seconds to spare! Yep, he got 4 rounds on target at distance in 11 seconds. That’s the caliber of shooter we’re talking about. It’s very different from benchrest or F-class competitions, but make no mistake … these guys are serious marksmen.
 
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Thanks kombayotch; is there any serious efforts to promote this type of interesting shooting in Canada? As mentioned in another thread, it was impressive to see a PRS competitor teamed up with a high-level experienced ex-PPCLI sniper as C/S 66 at this year's CISC. They ranged and banged targets from short range to 1100m+ and could hit any target in between quickly.

Regards,

Peter
 
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There are efforts to try and get it going in Ontario, Alberta and BC AFIK. There has been a match already at Valcaltier that could be the startings of this kind of match.

PRS just released a rulebook:
http://www.precisionrifleseries.com/prs_rules.pdf

It looks to have borrowed a lot from the rule book I wrote for the ORA execs. in my efforts to get it going through that org. I shared my rulebook it with Rich Emmons in the spring... There is mention of an International classification in this manual. I think it is based on my discussions with him about my efforts, but I could be wrong.
 
I would like to see this come to Canada sooner rather than later, hopefully in Ontario where I might actually be able to make it out for a match or 2
 
Thanks kombayotch; is there any serious efforts to promote this type of interesting shooting in Canada? As mentioned in another thread, it was impressive to see a PRS competitor teamed up with a high-level experienced ex-PPCLI sniper as C/S 66 at this year's CISC. They ranged and banged targets from short range to 1100m+ and could hit any target in between quickly.

Regards,

Peter
There has been 3 match already in Valcartier but nothing serious mainly prone shooting but I know the club wants to go to PRS style match in the near future (2500m on the "Termoli" range).







We had the "Tac Challenge" 2 years ago in Wemotachi (native land), it was only a fun shoot but it was a huge success, I'm trying with some friends to revive the event.


 
I have a dream!

I would love to be a part of bringing PRS to Canada. The problem we're finding here in Alberta is the size of range needed to hold these events doesn't exist locally. Open military ranges are ideal, so it may be a possibility out East but here there are no such ranges.. I have been working with Alberta's ESRD to find land that may work to build such a range but with elections and political shake up, we're not making a lot of ground. It's interesting to read this after such a meeting earlier tonight.

ETA: Everyone who browses the Precision Rifle section of Gun Nuts should follow Cal's blog. He takes a very scientific, unbiased approach to his writing and there is much to learn there.
 
This would be awesome to have up here! But we need to get rid of CFOs first. I think they'd frown upon us having fun during an organized shooting event not being held on an approved range. I know Steve does his poker rally shoot, but I was surprised the CFO stayed out of it. Maybe with that as a precedent we could do it? Any thoughts?
 
This would be awesome to have up here! But we need to get rid of CFOs first. I think they'd frown upon us having fun during an organized shooting event not being held on an approved range. I know Steve does his poker rally shoot, but I was surprised the CFO stayed out of it. Maybe with that as a precedent we could do it? Any thoughts?

Well if a bunch of people decide to go shooting and it happens to be on the same day at the same place well what a coincidence that would be.

I hope we can have these matches here.
 
You can't hold organized events on public lands without permits and government land use agreements.. something I have been looking into as well.

I think The Longest Mile could be utilized for some PRS style matches, you would just have to limit stages to 2 or 3 per day. The other factor would be the number of shooters, capacity couldn't be more than 40 or 50 there or you'd be looking at some looooong days!
 
This would be awesome to have up here! But we need to get rid of CFOs first. I think they'd frown upon us having fun during an organized shooting event not being held on an approved range. I know Steve does his poker rally shoot, but I was surprised the CFO stayed out of it. Maybe with that as a precedent we could do it? Any thoughts?

If we can get the Genesse Range cert back up before spring, we (Steve and I) have been discussing doing the Poker Rally as well as a PRS style match at Genesse. Now that we are back to 800m (once certified) we have the room to run a decent match. If we can get the paper in place, we have a great group of sponsors to put together a pretty decent match.

Last year we gave away 19k in prizes at the Poker Rally. Peter at Hirsch was one of our sponsors! With that big a prize pool, we though it made sense to start growing into a second shoot for the more competitive guys. Hopefully we can get the CFO sorted out and get the range up and running in time to plan another shoot this year. Seems there is demand for it.
 
I think the difference between a "tactical" match and a PRS match is the dynamic nature of the PRS match... but it is this movement that will make it very hard to run matches in Canada... and the US.

Having static stages with various tasks would be a no brainer to set up as long as the range template and backstops allowed use of impact targets.... and already done.

I hope a solution for a range can be sorted out as this looks to be alot of fun to play...

Jerry
 
An initial step for a new range is to obtain and study the Range Use and Construction Guidelines book, available from the Firearms Centre. There are many fire and movement ranges(IPSC). It is mainly a matter of templating.

Regards,

Peter
 
Nathan from CS66 was at our facility for a few days and there was a lot of discussion of PRS around here. Nathan is a successful competitor and a real pleasure to talk to about the technical aspects. To me, PRS is IPSC with a bolt gun, not an F class prone match with different targets.
 
Thanks for the kind words PGW Steve, and peterdobson! I can't express enough how much fun PRS style matches are, even more so with great sponsors like you guys!! We are working hard to bring an official Canadian round of the PRS series to Alberta in 2016. Watch and shoot friends.. watch and shoot!
 
Haha definately have to plan up a shoot! And .22 Rf stuff was anything but boring.. that is one impressive collection my friend. PS: For anyone that is interested I think the data for the 2015 PRS series as far as "What the Pros use" has been posted on PRB (Precision rifle blog).

SEND IT!!
 
Thanks for the kind words PGW Steve, and peterdobson! I can't express enough how much fun PRS style matches are, even more so with great sponsors like you guys!! We are working hard to bring an official Canadian round of the PRS series to Alberta in 2016. Watch and shoot friends.. watch and shoot!

Well this is exciting news!
 
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