2015 Shot Show: Colt Canada C8 IUR

r34skyline said:
The obscene price was the biggest killer of its sales more than anything. At a time when wolverine was putting up daniel defense guns for 1200 it was bad to try and sell the canadian colts for 2200 and 2400. And the sudden price drop to 1800 and 2000 respectively had 2 possibly 3 problems. 1 it wasn't a sufficient drop in price, 2 it was a slap in the face of every early adopter that paid the big initial asking price. 3 and this is probably there could be some people holding off expecting a second price drop.


The knights uses a different propietary bolt if I am not mistaken, Whereas the CC uses a milspec bolt.

Do I think they are good guns? After playing with mine, other than being features bare, it is a good quality gun.
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The Knights guns come with an improved bolt, full ambi lower, match triggers, sopmod stock, QD sling mounts and mounts, free float rails, hard gun case, at only a slightly higher price. IMO they are a much better value considering these are from the U.S. and they have to be imported unlike the CC made in Kitchener Ontario.

Also you fail to mention the LE/mil pricing fiasco
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
I'm interested in the DMR but I think the price point will be a bit of a shock. I know people are hoping that these will be up for grabs shortly but I don't see it. Matt has indicated triads, parts, other uppers due to overruns or whatnot coming to market, but it has been some time now. Even hats, shirts that people want...., crickets. Heck Matt announced some time ago about a warrenty form that was going to be put on the site to register current owners guns. Last time I checked still nothing.

My personal thought is that the current offering of C7/C8 LE are selling slower than what was anticipated and they are losing interest in the civ market.

One thing is that the ones they have sold must be making other owners happy as well. I have only seen one for sale on the EE.
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CdnCombatMedic said:
The Knights guns come with an improved bolt, full ambi lower, match triggers, sopmod stock, QD sling mounts and mounts, free float rails, hard gun case, at only a slightly higher price. IMO they are a much better value considering these are from the U.S. and they have to be imported unlike the CC made in Kitchener Ontario.

Also you fail to mention the LE/mil pricing fiasco
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That's because I was unaware of this please pm me with more details.

Also, completely agree with your assesment of kac being better value than cc based on the similar costs.
 
r34skyline said:
That's because I was unaware of this please pm me with more details.

Also, completely agree with your assesment of kac being better value than cc based on the similar costs.
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Well these guns were marketed for the guys who want to own what they carried etc etc...
To me it really didt matter if there was going to be a discount for LE/Mil.
I had contacted Korth and was told something was in the works and to contact back.
I contacted the same person at Korth and was told that they changed their mind and it LE/mil deal was off. Posted it here and to make a long story short this sales rep at Korth was wrong. This is also after I bought a C8. Come to find out I got screwed on some money.
The dealer I bought refunded me to their cost for the gun. That was great. Ended up getting a set of green furniture mailed to be at no cost. But I was the greasy wheel that got grease. I ended up selling the black set for 270 so I really got a good deal on this thing after all.

Now if your going to offer a deal then great. If not that's fine too.
Where I have the problem .... If your going to offer one do it from the beginning not a short while after they went forsale.
This screwed a few people over. Matt at CC said they were young to work something out for these guys with Korth but nothing has seemed to be done. I posted a thread that got locked on this matter.
 
Great rifle... I put up the money for the SA15.7. Considering that it is an anniversary model and that there are only 490 available to the public, I never felt the slap in the face at all. Due to nostalgia and limited quantity on the first run it is and will continue to be a desired rifle.

I don't run a museum though. If I own it I shoot it... Happy shooting everyone!!!
 
One more through: I think that Diemaco has just implemented an ingenious marketing strategy. Your going to see our friends south of the border wanting their hands on these which will in turn drive sales here.... time will tell
 
SKS45 said:
Great rifle... I put up the money for the SA15.7. Considering that it is an anniversary model and that there are only 490 available to the public, I never felt the slap in the face at all. Due to nostalgia and limited quantity on the first run it is and will continue to be a desired rifle.

I don't run a museum though. If I own it I shoot it... Happy shooting everyone!!!
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Is it a highly desired rifle? Hardly. They still have initial run left.
 
SKS45 said:
One more through: I think that Diemaco has just implemented an ingenious marketing strategy. Your going to see our friends south of the border wanting their hands on these which will in turn drive sales here.... time will tell
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I think it has been marketed in the worst ways.
It's been highly endorsed by Larry Vickers, and everyone knows that these are quality firearms.
It doesn't matter to the US market as they can't be imported into the US for civ sales.
 
How do you guys think these models will be priced to get this thread back on track lol.
I really would like to get my hands on one but not willing to pay with a kidney.

I am thinking that they will be around $2999 for the cheapest model of IUR. Retail price that is.
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
How do you guys think these models will be priced to get this thread back on track lol.
I really would like to get my hands on one but not willing to pay with a kidney.

I am thinking that they will be around $2999 for the cheapest model of IUR. Retail price that is.
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It wasn't that long ago that I was willing to drop $2800 on a plain Jane 6920. Then my heart went to BCM based on the reports of reliability/quality. Then we got dumped on with well priced/affordable AR gallore. Now we turning our nose up at a very high quality,accurate, Canadian made rifle/carbine with awesome customer service.

My AR10 had a Noveske upper. it was sweet: shot like a dream, never had a problem with it. My heart breaks everytime I remember that I sold it. (I don't remember which CGNer bought it, but I hope it is serving you well.) Yet, even if you dropped a brand new Noveske, Centurion Arms, Knights, BCM, LaRue, LWRC, i would just turn around and sell/trade it for a Diemaco C8.

With the dollar going the way it is, it won't be long before the prices on C7-C8 become appealing, IMHO.

Only accurate and reliable rifles matter. Diemaco has both in spades.
 
Those 6920's were highly gouged. Irunguns made this evident.
I do agree that these will be more appealing with the cad losing so much ground. It all depends how much these increase because I assume lots of the materials come from the USA.
I saw in a thread that Korth was holding sales of them due to an approx 7% increase. Don't know if this was the truth or not.
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
I saw in a thread that Korth was holding sales of them due to an approx 7% increase. Don't know if this was the truth or not.
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I can show you the emails if you want...

BTW I'm STILL waiting for an update from Korth...

Best thing Colt Canada could do in 2015 is change distributors. Korth's attitude is not helping Colt Canada reach the market!
 
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