20mm anyone?

Had a Lahti back in the 70's. Paid just under $500 for it as I recall, lol. once I shot the 10 rounds it came with, it became a closet queen (no safe in those days). Eventually I sold it because I couldn't get ammo for it. Wasn't even restricted (or even registered) back in those days. Range was a gravel pit NW of Spruce Grove. Fun gun. - dan

back in the late 40's and 50's they sold for 199.00 and i beleve 10 rounds came with it. not sure where i seen it but im sure i did in an old magizine or something.
 
Nice Rick!

Has anyone ever developed a rifle that would accurately use the performance of the 14.5X114?
What an amazing round!

I assume components remain near impossible to get?

Can't see any reason an accurate 14.5 could not be made, a scaled up 50 basically, and there are MANY real accurate 50s.

The big problem with both 14.5 and the 20s is supply of ammo or components.
This exists even with smaller and common calibers in this country to a large degree.
Given that the most regularly used word in most Canadian gun owners vocabulary is "cheap" the market would not support the costs to import, get NRCAN on board and then stock the ammo if and when it was approved.

I would love to be able to shoot my 14.5 and 20mm more often, but sadly ammo is very scarce and I do not see that changing.
 
Can't see any reason an accurate 14.5 could not be made, a scaled up 50 basically, and there are MANY real accurate 50s.


Given that the most regularly used word in most Canadian gun owners vocabulary is "cheap" the market would not support the costs to import, get NRCAN on board and then stock the ammo if and when it was approved.

Ain't that the truth.
I wonder if golf or ski forums have the 'C' word in so many posts.

Certainly our government does not want to be of any help in getting ammo into the country, I had a deal on 50, 14.5 and 20mm a few years ago, but had to step away after all the government BS was laid out.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but what is NRCAN?

Energy Mines and Resources used to be the body who looked after explosives and ammo imports.
They like so many government agencies have adopted an alphabet soup acronym for a name. I think NRCAN may be the current alphabet soup for the regulatory agency who has the say over whether ammo is safe for Canadian consumption.
 
How hard would it be to spin up some 14.5 or 20mm projectiles and cases on a CNC lathe and load them yourself?

Several of us hard core big bore addicts DO shoot lathe turned projectiles. Casings are the hard to locate part. I have been trying to find someone with CNC lathe capability that would be interested in giving it a go as at this time I do not have a CNC lathe.
Like so many things here, only so many hours in a day and something else always seems to take priority.:(
 
Surplus Canadian casings for sale on gcsurplus.ca

Mike at Anzio has the advantage of being able to get surplus 20mm Vulcan ammo which is quite cheap in the US. I looked into building something similar, the problem in Canada is getting ammo as anything over 49 caliber is no longer legal to export from the US. I have yet to find any Canadian surplus ammo being available in any caliber.
alberta tactical rifle said:
Casings are the hard to locate part.
The canadian goverment does surplus massive amounts of empty brass casings on GCSurplus. I know that I've seen auctions for 25mm in the past, they probably also have 20mm for sale every once in a while if the canadian military uses it. Maybe these casings could be reloaded. Below is a link to the GCSurplus auction website. Click on 'What has sold' and use the search function using the keyword 'brass'.

http://gcsurplus.ca/

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The canadian goverment does surplus massive amounts of empty brass casings on GCSurplus. I know that I've seen auctions for 25mm in the past, they probably also have 20mm for sale every once in a while if the canadian military uses it. Maybe these casings could be reloaded. Below is a link to the GCSurplus auction website. Click on 'What has sold' and use the search function using the keyword 'brass'.

http://gcsurplus.ca/

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I've seen that and seem to remember there being a condition of sale that states that it can't be resold in the same form or that it must be processed as scrap metal. Something to that effect anyway.
 
Several of us hard core big bore addicts DO shoot lathe turned projectiles. Casings are the hard to locate part. I have been trying to find someone with CNC lathe capability that would be interested in giving it a go as at this time I do not have a CNC lathe.
Like so many things here, only so many hours in a day and something else always seems to take priority.:(

I just got done an interior renovation for a company that does CNC machining. They have two big....I think they are Okuma lathes., as well as a smaller one and they do rapid prototyping. They are close to the South Costco in Calgary.
 
I've wanted a Solothurn ever since I read Unintended Consequences. I couldn't find one anywhere in Canada.

Then I turned my eye onto the Anzio 200mm in white, like in the photo (1st post) Anzio would not ship to Canada. I had the money in hand from a settlement and if I could have bought one, I would have.

I ended up buying a Custom M14 from LRB Arms, with the M25 Receiver, that has both front and rear Scope Mount Bases integral part of the Receiver. I found an original springfield Armory Scope for it. I have over $5,000.00 into this rifle now, and it is a lot of fun to shoot. Very Accurate too! I posted a 5 shot, 0.4" inch grouping target here about a year or so. Can't find it now.

I'd like to see a Canadian Company make a 20mm like the Anzio 20mm.
 
I've wanted a Solothurn ever since I read Unintended Consequences. I couldn't find one anywhere in Canada.

Then I turned my eye onto the Anzio 200mm in white, like in the photo (1st post) Anzio would not ship to Canada. I had the money in hand from a settlement and if I could have bought one, I would have.

I ended up buying a Custom M14 from LRB Arms, with the M25 Receiver, that has both front and rear Scope Mount Bases integral part of the Receiver. I found an original springfield Armory Scope for it. I have over $5,000.00 into this rifle now, and it is a lot of fun to shoot. Very Accurate too! I posted a 5 shot, 0.4" inch grouping target here about a year or so. Can't find it now.

I'd like to see a Canadian Company make a 20mm like the Anzio 20mm.

If anyone can do it, it's Rick at ATRS. He is, dare I say it, CGN's established big bore LR expert.
 
Anyone with a 14.5mm or 20mm want to work together and develop some CNC machined cases and projectiles? You provide the test rifle, I'll make the cases. That being said, I don't know two s**ts about reloading, so I'm not much help in that regard.
 
The canadian goverment does surplus massive amounts of empty brass casings on GCSurplus. I know that I've seen auctions for 25mm in the past, they probably also have 20mm for sale every once in a while if the canadian military uses it. Maybe these casings could be reloaded. Below is a link to the GCSurplus auction website. Click on 'What has sold' and use the search function using the keyword 'brass'.

http://gcsurplus.ca/

159647.JPEG

It looks like a condition of sale is that all the casings are crushed - "casings crushed to certify that every precaution has been taken to render this safe to the Public." Because so many people spend $40208.40 to buy 105mm brass in order to hurt people :rolleyes:
 
Anyone with a 14.5mm or 20mm want to work together and develop some CNC machined cases and projectiles? You provide the test rifle, I'll make the cases. That being said, I don't know two s**ts about reloading, so I'm not much help in that regard.

Turning cases on a lathe is a bad idea. Part of the case bellow the shoulder would be too thick , and would not allow the case to expand against the chamber walls, failing to seal the gases. This could create a very dangerous condition.

There were people who tried this in the past with some success, but its probably easier, cheaper and safer to source some 14.5 brass. 20mm brass should be even easier to find.

Here are the dimensions of the case if you feel like making one:
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Turning cases on a lathe is a bad idea. Part of the case bellow the shoulder would be too thick , and would not allow the case to expand against the chamber walls, failing to seal the gases. This could create a very dangerous condition.

Please explain?
 
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