Oh FFS, un-bunch yer panties.
But don't let that stand in the way of finding offense, any place you chose to look!
Average people are pretty stupid!
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Oh FFS, un-bunch yer panties.
But don't let that stand in the way of finding offense, any place you chose to look!
Average people are pretty stupid!
shatthatkilledelvis
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ignorance is bliss....the old saying goes.
FWIW, I bought a rifle off the EE that wasn't shooting real well with factory ammo. I took it to a guy who had a really good bore scope and saw some light pitting and scoring in the bore and my heart sank. I thought I had wasted a bunch of money on what I had hoped to be a great coyote rifle. The gunsmith, who also happens to be a ballistics and reloading expert, suggested I stop scrubbing it clean every shot, and try a different bullet shape and weight. Voila, sub-MOA groups.
I guess what I am saying is, don't worry about what you see on that scope right now. Shoot it and find a load it likes.
I guess what I am saying is, don't worry about what you see on that scope right now. Shoot it and find a load it likes.
focus is done by screwing the mirror in or out. those milsurp throats can look really ugly.
It may not be possible to know how what's seen in the borescope images will affect how the rifle performs.
Borescopes like those used by everyday shooters can produce good images, but they have limitations. They can't tell you how a barrel will shoot. They can't measure anything inside the bore, including lands and grooves and their consistency through the bore. They can't reveal where a bore may be tighter or looser. They can't tell you how straight the bore is or whether it's concentric through it's length. One of the most useful results of borescoping is that for the unprofessional eye they can reveal something about the success of the cleaning regimen.
At the same time, borescopes can provide an unsettling experience. They can show uneven machining and tool marks, especially in the leade area, which can appear to be problematic. But this doesn't prove anything about how they will affect shooting. They may look undesirable, even ugly, but otherwise may not significantly affect shooting. The problem is that they might, and there's the conundrum for the shooter after seeing something that perturbs him. What to do?
If it's a new rifle, it's possible to get it exchanged. Below are some images from a brand new .22LR -- all of them within a few inches of the muzzle. I shot the rifle before borescoping it and the results were good. But when I saw these images (and more like them), I contacted the dealer, distributor, and the manufacturer. The manufacturer, on the far side of the world, responded quickly and the rifle was replaced.
Of course, if I hadn't seen any borescope images I wouldn't have had any reason to have the rifle replaced. When looking by eye the bore looked "bright and shiny". The pitting-like defects were not visible by eye, even though they were near the muzzle.
It may be another question altogether when it's what to do about a previously owned rifle that shoots well but was never borescoped by the original owner and later found to have "defects".
Borescopes like those used by everyday shooters can produce good images, but they have limitations. They can't tell you how a barrel will shoot. They can't measure anything inside the bore, including lands and grooves and their consistency through the bore. They can't reveal where a bore may be tighter or looser. They can't tell you how straight the bore is or whether it's concentric through it's length. One of the most useful results of borescoping is that for the unprofessional eye they can reveal something about the success of the cleaning regimen.
At the same time, borescopes can provide an unsettling experience. They can show uneven machining and tool marks, especially in the leade area, which can appear to be problematic. But this doesn't prove anything about how they will affect shooting. They may look undesirable, even ugly, but otherwise may not significantly affect shooting. The problem is that they might, and there's the conundrum for the shooter after seeing something that perturbs him. What to do?
If it's a new rifle, it's possible to get it exchanged. Below are some images from a brand new .22LR -- all of them within a few inches of the muzzle. I shot the rifle before borescoping it and the results were good. But when I saw these images (and more like them), I contacted the dealer, distributor, and the manufacturer. The manufacturer, on the far side of the world, responded quickly and the rifle was replaced.
Of course, if I hadn't seen any borescope images I wouldn't have had any reason to have the rifle replaced. When looking by eye the bore looked "bright and shiny". The pitting-like defects were not visible by eye, even though they were near the muzzle.
It may be another question altogether when it's what to do about a previously owned rifle that shoots well but was never borescoped by the original owner and later found to have "defects".
rifleman762
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Here is a sampling of some modern production barrels that I've scoped.
Faxon Gunner 308, unfired thanks to Trudeau.
The rest of these barrels have a varying # of rounds through them.
Faxon Gunner 308, unfired thanks to Trudeau.
The rest of these barrels have a varying # of rounds through them.
