Mount Sweetness
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what calibre is better for coyotes?
answer: .22-250
answer: .22-250
22-250 vs .223
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I just sighted in my H&R survivor .223 this afternoon.... this was my first 3 shot grouping at 100 yards... enough said.... I love that gun and I love that round!.. have ever since I shot it in the forces.... if only I could have taken my C7 home with me....lol...
I guess one cant expect much more out of a Handi rifle.
Maybe I should elaborate... I shot this out of a lawnchair with a monopod at my redneck range.... my range is handgun only.....
that being said, a 22-250 could do the same... I just love 223...lol....
TransAm1991
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When I buy a gun, the first thing I do is check the nearest ammo supply (Crappy tire) and look at the price and amount of ammunition you get.
I, personally, would not shoot anything passed 200 yards, I know I couldn't hit a moving target that far out. I have enough trouble at 75 yards!
That being said, the two rounds side by side, where and what I'll be shooting, I'm going to say .223, I really don't see an advantage to another 100 yards, when I won't make that shot anyway.
I, personally, would not shoot anything passed 200 yards, I know I couldn't hit a moving target that far out. I have enough trouble at 75 yards!
That being said, the two rounds side by side, where and what I'll be shooting, I'm going to say .223, I really don't see an advantage to another 100 yards, when I won't make that shot anyway.
Just a note... .223 is good at 300 in the right hands.... but almost dead flat at 200.....
Jesus bud... how many round you plan on shootin?.... at the price of that may rounds the cost of a new low grade rilfe is next to nothing in comparison...
pointandshoot
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i went threw the same debate a few years ago...i went with the 223. i reload so ammo availability isn't an issue. i've fed it 52 to 75gr bullets and spat 'em out just fine. i wanted something with lite to no recoil and something fairly quick and the 223 fit my needs and i would pick the 223 if i had to do it all over again.
TransAm1991
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I would have to be 100% sure with a 200 yard shot, wounding the animal and not having a proper follow up shot would bother me.
I have that Iphone app, Shooter, shows the velocity, drop, drift, TOF, it's amazing how much actually happens in 100 yards.
Honestly, I've only been shooting for a year, most of the rounds I've gone through have been .22 LR and 12 gauge 7 1/2 trap loads, so my long distance shooting has honestly been zero.
The 22-250 is way better and way cooler then the 223 ! Anything the 223 can do the 22-250 does it much better !
If only a guy could, I dunno...have a rifle rebarreled if he happened to eventually shoot a barrel out. Wouldn't that be great??
Why guys get hung up over this I just don't get. How many ever actually wear out a barrel?
Sure you could get it re barreled but whats the point in a gun that you need to be rebarrling after every 2-4 thousand rounds.
Now to be fair i don't have a rifle in either caliber and haven't experinced it first hand, so really im just playing devils advocate. 100 rounds a month is 1200 rounds a year is 2-4 years of barrel life. If you don't shoot that much then it doesn't matter but lets not pretend that its not possible to shoot that much.
I would be more concerned with ammo price my self and the fact that i could shoot my .223 alot more for the money.
I have used up a few barrels over the years. It isn't hard to shoot 1000 or more rounds out of a rifle in a year, and at that rate, a barrel can easily have the throat eroded away in a few years. Since I do shoot a lot, barrel life is a factor that I consider when choosing a cartridge for a gun that will see a lot of target shooting, or varmint shooting.
I do shoot that much. In honesty not this year due to house reno's but I will fix that ASAP. Only about 1000 centerfire rounds this year, maybe a bit more.
I see it like a guy buying mudder tires for a truck then parking it in the garage.
"See my new tires?"
"Yup, how do they work?"
"How do they work??? You crazy, no way do I drive the truck, that might wear my tires out!!"
What is your experience in rounds that wash out the throat in 2000 rounds? Just wondering. Rifles are made to shoot. Wear the barrel out, and do it again. To NOT do that is a waste of money.
Re cost, if you handload there's not much difference in costs. And just to be clear, that rebarrel every few thousand rounds that costs say $500? To get there you need to burn at least a couple thousand dollars in ammo. Barrels are the cheap part of the equation.
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Well, you can buy a McGowan or similar for about $200. A Krieger for $350, yes I bought a Krieger in the past 3 months for $350. A Pac-Nor for about the same. Call it $200 for threading and chambering, I'm not that far off. At least in the dozen or so I have had done.
You certainly can spend more, especially if you have the receiver trued. And if you don't know where to shop. But you don't need to. If you are spending $500 for a barrel blank you have more money than I do, or you don't shop around.
You certainly can spend more, especially if you have the receiver trued. And if you don't know where to shop. But you don't need to. If you are spending $500 for a barrel blank you have more money than I do, or you don't shop around.
