.22 K-Hornet CZ 527 Accuracy

Ganderite, may I respectfully ask what would you consider to be the optimal powder for this cartridge with 40 gr. bullets?

I tried everything in mine an settled on 680. I have no idea if that is generally a good powder or not. It meters well, for sure. handy if you have to make a lot of ammo.

I would try 11 to 12 gr of 2400, too.
 
I tried everything in mine an settled on 680. I have no idea if that is generally a good powder or not. It meters well, for sure. handy if you have to make a lot of ammo.

I would try 11 to 12 gr of 2400, too.

I thought I read somewhere that 680 had been discontinued, can you enlighten me? That is one I have not tried, I will try it if it is still available. When loading for a shoot I generally load 500 - 1000 at a time through a measure so yes, smooth metering is very important also.
 
I thought I read somewhere that 680 had been discontinued, can you enlighten me? That is one I have not tried, I will try it if it is still available. When loading for a shoot I generally load 500 - 1000 at a time through a measure so yes, smooth metering is very important also.

It may be discontinued. Maybe AA1680 is the same powder?

My experience with it and the 22 is 40 years ago.
 
Lil Gun with Varmit Grenades worked best in my 22K Hornet.

Yes, the Varmint Grenades were #2, maybe even tied for #1 with the 40 V-Max in the accuracy department. I settled on the 40 V-Max because of their superior performance in the wind and at longer ranges.

All the research indicates that the .22 Hornet is not known for it`s accuracy. The K-Hornet is supposedly somewhat better, but still not known as an inherently accurate cartridge. I`m thinking that expecting a K-Hornet to produce accuracy comparable to a well built / tuned varmint rifle in .204, .222, or .223 is an exercise in futility. Be that as it may, it still is a hell of a lot of fun to shoot.
 
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If the rille has a 1-16 twist some riles just like 45fr or 40gr lead round nose bullets made for the hornet.

5/8 isn't bad for a hornet IMO.
 
If the rille has a 1-16 twist some riles just like 45fr or 40gr lead round nose bullets made for the hornet.

5/8 isn't bad for a hornet IMO.

Tried the 45 Hornady "Hornet" bullets, they were no hell. I think you may be right in that 5/8 may be the accuracy "limit" for this cartridge. I was looking initially for the magic 1/4 - 5/16" level but soon realized it would never do it, so then I set my goal for 1/2" and it has never achieved that either. 5/8 is about it, but I suppose in all reality that is adequate for it`s purpose.
I love the cartridge but it just p###xx me off that it holds the distinction of being my least accurate gun. I have been reloading for a looong time and this is without a doubt the most challenging cartridge I have ever come across.
 
I have never tried it myself but crimping the necks if possible might be with a try. Bullet jump might be why some have better luck with pistol primers.
 
I once owned a Sako 78 in 22 Hornet. Damn near drove me insane trying to reload for it. It would put 5 rounds of factory Winchester 40 gr hollow points in to less than 1/2" at 100 yds, but I could not match this with any reload I tried. Finally tried Winchester 680 ball powder. That turned the trick, and I could duplicate the factory Winchester accuracy. This gun did not like any other powder. Interestingly, it would not shoot Remington or any other brand of factory ammo worth a tinker's damn. I recall an article by Ross Seyfried who claimed that the 22 Hornet was the fussiest cartridge he had ever reloaded. He owned 3 different guns in the same chambering, and had developed a good load for each, but the 3 loads were all different and no two of his guns would shoot the same load well.
 
I once owned a Sako 78 in 22 Hornet. Damn near drove me insane trying to reload for it. It would put 5 rounds of factory Winchester 40 gr hollow points in to less than 1/2" at 100 yds, but I could not match this with any reload I tried. Finally tried Winchester 680 ball powder. That turned the trick, and I could duplicate the factory Winchester accuracy. This gun did not like any other powder. Interestingly, it would not shoot Remington or any other brand of factory ammo worth a tinker's damn. I recall an article by Ross Seyfried who claimed that the 22 Hornet was the fussiest cartridge he had ever reloaded. He owned 3 different guns in the same chambering, and had developed a good load for each, but the 3 loads were all different and no two of his guns would shoot the same load well.

There is no doubt that this is the fussiest little bu###x that I have ever reloaded for. Every .224 and 6mm varmint rig I have ever owned would do 1/2" or less with no drama. You can pretty much throw anything at a good .223 or .204 and expect better. But being a true "reloader" I do sort of like the challenge, it is afterall part of the fun.
 
I have a few hornets and a K hornet. Primers are critical. Mag primers really affect accuracy, well documented, just google. I suspect the pressure spikes you are seeing are due to mag primers. Mag primers really affect a small case like the hornet. Remington 6 1/2 primers were designed for the hornet. My go to load is Lil Gun and Remington 6 1/2 primers.
 
I'd be one of those guys who swear by Lil'gun very acurate in a KE. Load as much as the case will hold. I did find primers made a difference in this gun ended up using CCI small pistol. Gave the smallest groups consistant 10 in 3/4 at 100

Be very careful with this powder. It is fairly fast burning and in that tiny case a small change makes a big difference. Work up to max charge carefully. You might not see pressure indicators until you go to seat a new primer and it falls out. All of this happened to me in a CZ527 but with a 17 Hornet. It is also temp sensitive. So on a cool day it may be fine but if you take it out on a hot day and leave your ammo in the sun it could be dangerous. Remember this is a tiny cartridge and small differences that would be negligible in a larger centre fire will make a much larger diff in the tiny Hornet.
 
Looking for most accurate load for a .22 K-Hornet in a CZ 527? Please, no responses other than those related to CZ 527s. Been reloading for 50+ years, got a good handle on this, other varmint guns ( .204, .222, .223, etc.) capable of 1/4" - 5/16" 5x100. It is NOT the bedding, scope, mounts, etc. Have worked several powders and every bullet available and this gun will not go consistent sub 5/8" no matter what. Looking for help from other 527 K-Hornet re-loaders? Love the gun, action & trigger, the thing even looks pretty. Am I expecting too much from it? Could live with consistent 1/2' 5x100.
Thank you,

I’ve got a cz527 in 17Hornet. Other than it being really pretty, this is the worst gun I have ever had. And the triggers good after you get it adjusted properly. And loading for it is only one of the probs.

The only thing consistent about this gun is it would shoot everything at 1.5” no matter what I did. Incl all factory ammo I could find. Finally found that it loved the bullets to be really close to the lands, between .005 and .002 off. Then it immediately went to around.25 moa. Which makes for a very tiny group with 17cal. But then you’re stuck with single shot feeding the gun. And you have to hold everything just so to drop a round in there, not easy. So, needless to say this thing spends its days in the safe and I’ve all but given up on it. Might try again in the spring when the gophers come out, if I feel particularly patient.

Just looked up my notes on this, CFE-BLK worked best in my gun, could also try H335, and IMR 4227. Stay away from Lil Gun, I just put up another post in this thread re my experiences with that.

Anybody wanna buy a cz527, it’s really pretty?
 
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I use a Calhoon single shot adaptor and seat the bullets at the lands. With the adaptor you just drop the cartridge in any old way, don`t even have to look, feeds perfect every time. Real slick piece. I find the machine work, action and especially the trigger quite acceptable on the 527, just would like to tighten up the groups a bit.
 
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