.22 LR AR15 Indoors

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Our club has a 25m HEATED indoor range. We shoot .22 LR, CF IPSC and General Handgun throughout the winter months.

My wife and I have CMMG .22 LR conversion units for our AR15s. I have proposed using them indoors and am getting nothing but static and reasons why we shouldn't/couldn't/can't from one source. Reasons like:

- we don't have bullet proof side walls
- we don't have a bullet proof ceiling (but we do have bullet baffles)
-CQB with a carbine indoors presents issues
- the cases on the floor
- what if ...., etc.

Strange how there is no concern about side walls and ceilings when we shoot .45 ACP and 9mm handguns indoors. We have suffered such damage in the past resulting from range rentals to the rcmp and other agencies.

On the CMMG unit, the bolt stays open on the last shot, making it ready to insert a chamber flag. Removing the magazine closes the bolt on the chamber flag, allowing the carbine's safe removal to permit scoring/taping.

All participants will be IPSC "Black Badge" qualified and instruction on the handling of carbines will be required.

HELP !!!

I'm looking for reasons why we SHOULD do this and not why we shouldn't.
 
I have nothing to add except my sympathy. It's frustrating to deal with ignorant people that flat out refuse to acknowledge logic and reason. Good luck.
 
Can your shoot other 22lr rifles or PCC rifles at your range ? If yes, then this is pure BS. There is no reason not to be able to shoot a 22lr AR other than it being banned by look or by name.

Kind of like the gov banning AKs based on their evil scary name.

I would challenge the club executives as to why. The whole things stinks
 
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I can't see why it's any less safe than any other firearm. Be warned they create a lot of lead cast off out the muzzle end and ejection port as well so make sure your ventilation system is up to snuff.
 
Seems pretty rediculous to be honest. I'll bet they shoot .22 tgt pistols all the time. But hey...at least you have a range to shoot at. I live beside a club in Beachburg ON that won't let me join because they have "too many members". Never seen more than 2 cars in the parking lot in the 2 years I've lived here.
 
Thanks, guys. Yes, I believe that it is simply a case of Fuddism, a manifestation of the "we've never done that here before, ergo .....". Either the Black Badge certification means something or not re: safe gun handling.

Our indoor range is approved for up to the .357 magnum profile, although other large bore calibres are allowed. Go figure.

However, we are disallowed shooting pistol calibre carbines indoors as there is no way to ensure people will not be exceeding the allowable power factor (200 iirc) without chronoing.

If it's a concern about movement around barricades, the solution is to shoot downrange and lateral movement only, no retreating. With two hands on the carbine, muzzle direction is assured.

I'll persist and post the outcome .....
 
swissinn said:
Seems pretty rediculous to be honest. I'll bet they shoot .22 tgt pistols all the time. But hey...at least you have a range to shoot at. I live beside a club in Beachburg ON that won't let me join because they have "too many members". Never seen more than 2 cars in the parking lot in the 2 years I've lived here.
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... that really blows.... Maybe get to know a member or the owners and get on "the ins"
 
Can you shoot a 10/22 or a bolt gun .22 at the indoor range? If it's simply a matter making a certain power factor, I'm pretty sure the .22 from a rifle will fall short. You could do the math and show them the outcome.
 
It's absolutely safe and fine to shoot .22LR rifles indoors.

The backstop doesn't know the difference between two different brands or styles of .22LR firearms.
 
just tell them you are feeding your CMMG with ruger 10/22 branded ammo so that it stays at 10/22 velocity. Better yet, tell them its the same ammo from your Ruger Mk4 .22 hand gun, that one has even less velocity.
 
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