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22 LR gouging
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What may well happen is that the price hoes up permanently because the manufacturers know they can get it. Better to make $1m on 250,000 boxes than on 500,000 boxes. 22 is one of the lowest margin products for the manufacturers
- Location
- Grande Prairie AB
It,s nice to see how Canadians who own business are treating there fellow customers. Its like that all across Canada.That is a reason why the Auto Industry are starting
to move there manufacturing plants south to Mexico They cant sell their product here because the unions demand such a high price for paying the people that make
the products here they have to move the plants where they get more for there money. It just starting now but continue to watch.
to move there manufacturing plants south to Mexico They cant sell their product here because the unions demand such a high price for paying the people that make
the products here they have to move the plants where they get more for there money. It just starting now but continue to watch.
The thing that always amazes me is that everybody wants the capitalist system and hates anything remotely socialist.... Yet when confronted with the outcome of the capitalist system people cry foul. The issue is demand and supply as countless people have pointed out and of story. Maybe In Alberta under NDP leadership they will come up with a.22lr redistribution system or regulate the prices 
What about tomorrow ?
lol
people who complain and trash dealers over the current pricing of 22 ammo should suck it up ..... my guess is worse is too come and I think blaming it on our cgn dealers is a non starter.
so I propose a solution for all the little airwolf types.......
go get your firearms business licence, put your cash down on getting lisenced to buy and import ammo wholesale (ya know like budget shooter supply did) and only stock 22 ammo....... I wanna see if these "gouging" margins make you a rich man inside 3 years........ think of all the cheap ammo you could set aside for yourself buying at cost LOL
care to play?
so I propose a solution for all the little airwolf types.......
go get your firearms business licence, put your cash down on getting lisenced to buy and import ammo wholesale (ya know like budget shooter supply did) and only stock 22 ammo....... I wanna see if these "gouging" margins make you a rich man inside 3 years........ think of all the cheap ammo you could set aside for yourself buying at cost LOL
care to play?
When my stash is gone I'm mothballing my 22's , paying that kinda money for 22rounds is just plain silly . This is he kinda thing that pushes people away from our sport , and weakens us as a whole . With the political climate the way it is we need as many people out there shooting as we can get . The 22 is the " gateway gun " for new shooters and if that way is blocked by ridiculous prices then the odds of them moving on to centre fire rifles are slim to none .
I went straight to Centre fire. Never had an interest in 22lr.
Prices on 22lr ammo are only perceived as being expensive now in relation to the prices shooters were originally accustomed to.
In the grande scheme of things, 22lr is still cheap.
Just not to the cheapskates who keep referencing the pennies a round they were used to paying, and for some strange reason thought they would remain paying forever.
Prices on 22lr ammo are only perceived as being expensive now in relation to the prices shooters were originally accustomed to.
In the grande scheme of things, 22lr is still cheap.
Just not to the cheapskates who keep referencing the pennies a round they were used to paying, and for some strange reason thought they would remain paying forever.
So I am up in Pembroke Ontario, stopped by the local cdn tire store and I was blinded by the amount of .22 that they had on the shelf. American Eagle, Winchester, you name it high velocity, low velocity and subsonic, literally 30,000 a 35,000 rds on the shelf plus whatever was in the store room. Pricing was not too bad, I paid 62.97 taxes in for 2x500 Rd brick. So that brings it down to about 6.3 cents per shot. I will be heading back to Toronto this Friday, if anyone needs anything throw me a P.M.
50% increase in a matter of months is the increase on 22 lr ammo. Would you say the same if gas increased in a few months by 50% or your taxes..... You talk like wanting to save money is a bad thing...you enjoy paying inflated prices on goods go for it man....smart people save money not throw it away. CEO's love consumers like you..gets them off.
Markets have very little to do with anything in the economy anymore. TBTF, abuse of regulatory bodies for building economic "moats" or barriers to entry mean the government and big business together conspire as to what the market will bare. Subsidies, protections.... Markets were on life support in the 90 the 00's pulled the plug.
Now we have economy by decree. We still use the language of markets, perhaps as a cultural or historical nod, but creative destruction is only for the working class. Capital is for the renegade. Real power use credit. We are living in a creditalist society, not a capitalist one. The real power gets TBTF and Too powerful to Jail. (Until they don't)
Interesting times we live in indeed.
I wish i had gotten into this sport a little sooner. I tried to get my buddy to stock up on .22 as i was reading about these shortages a couple years ago, and when I looked in CT and walmart it was true, the shelves were empty. (it upsets me when others tell me I should have stocked up before i had the chance to so...)
he did buy me a few boxes (which he held onto until my license arrived 6 months later) but that ammo didn't last long. I have one box of cci standard vel from that purchase left but that is it.
I have never seen a case of .22lr ammo be available, I have never seen cci blazer or standard vel on the shelves personally. I learned the hard way not to waste my time with winchester or remington .22 ammo.
I am super happy cabelas at least gets cci in from time to time and i buy it because otherwise what are my options? my latest purchase came out to about $0.09 a round. shooting my sks only costs 50% more than that. it's more fun too!
currently I am happy with what I have been able to collect and won't be buying any more unless the price is right. (won't hold my breath)
.22 is supposed to be the gateway gun for new shooters... it wont be long till that is replaced by the sks. albeit, more scary looking which will turn off a few.
he did buy me a few boxes (which he held onto until my license arrived 6 months later) but that ammo didn't last long. I have one box of cci standard vel from that purchase left but that is it.
I have never seen a case of .22lr ammo be available, I have never seen cci blazer or standard vel on the shelves personally. I learned the hard way not to waste my time with winchester or remington .22 ammo.
I am super happy cabelas at least gets cci in from time to time and i buy it because otherwise what are my options? my latest purchase came out to about $0.09 a round. shooting my sks only costs 50% more than that. it's more fun too!
currently I am happy with what I have been able to collect and won't be buying any more unless the price is right. (won't hold my breath)
.22 is supposed to be the gateway gun for new shooters... it wont be long till that is replaced by the sks. albeit, more scary looking which will turn off a few.
Found a couple boxes in back of ammo cupboard, IVI from Macleods. So I know they have been there a while. $2.49 a box for long, 2.59 for LR. That has to be close to 5.00 in today's money. The days of .25 a box are gone, so probably are the $2.00 box. At 6-12 cents a round it is still good fun for the $$$. Look at the explosion of 17hmr shooters, they are paying lots to keep shooting. I sold off a case of AE that had $3.99price tags on them. It is costing us now to play. I am paying what I have to for the brands I want and selling off what I don't use.
- Location
- Rockland, ON
I've got 2 of the old 50 round plastic boxes that 22lr used to come in. I still use them to put bulk 22lr in. One is from 50 CCI Stinger 22lr the other is from 50 Imperial High Velocity 22lr. They both still have the price tags on them. IIRC they were both purchased in the late 80's, the CCI from a place called Kennedy Surplus (?can't remember it at all but may have been in the GTA), the Imperial from Epps. Prices...$4.85 for the CCI and $3.10 for the Imperial. Without adding in whatever the taxes may have been, the CCI works out to 9.7 cents per and the Imperial 6.2 cents per. I remember thinking that the Stingers were crazy expensive back then but I just had to have them. In the last month I've bought several boxes (300 rds per box) of Landry CCI Mini Mag that worked out to 10.6 cents per, and a box (1000 rds) of Winchester M22 that worked out to 6.4 cents per. From where I sit historically, there's no real reason to whine...the price is as right as can be expected for 22lr nowadays.
As a new shooter, I've only known $40 bricks... and rising. I started shooting 7.62x39 in 2013 and didn't buy a 22 until 2014. I did inherit a 22magnum, so the only rimfire I've ever bought was always a tad expensive. If it is 8 or 9 cents per round, I buy it. I've never used cci in my ruger though I do have several boxes for the 22wmr... Since I'm just shooting paper or reactive targets, I've never had an issue shooting any brand, so I'm not biased against any brand either.
It's nice to say that we should have stockpiled when it was cheap but that is a fundamentally flawed argument. Maybe I should also buy 7.62x54 because I may someday own one or it may someday cost more? I'd rather invest in something I know I'll need.
At 8000 rounds, costing around 8 cents per, I've still only spent about $640... not very much in the big scheme of things.
It's nice to say that we should have stockpiled when it was cheap but that is a fundamentally flawed argument. Maybe I should also buy 7.62x54 because I may someday own one or it may someday cost more? I'd rather invest in something I know I'll need.
At 8000 rounds, costing around 8 cents per, I've still only spent about $640... not very much in the big scheme of things.
In the states right now a .22 lr round is almost half the price of .223, plus you can shoot a .223 and sell off the brass so that makes well under half.....and guys still want it for plinking and hoard it.
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