.22 Mosin trainer?
- Thread starter Mr. Buttons
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Are the Polish trainers a common find or a rare breed?
- Location
- Tucson, Arizona
One thing to remember about that Polish .22. DO NOT DRY FIRE IT!!!!!!
When I bought mine from a local shop, it had been on the rack where the usual "Trigger snappers" had access. the chamber mouth was peened to the point where it would NOT chamber a .22. Took it back and they fixed it.
When I bought mine from a local shop, it had been on the rack where the usual "Trigger snappers" had access. the chamber mouth was peened to the point where it would NOT chamber a .22. Took it back and they fixed it.
I have one... or I am going to have one. I've been importing a Polish WZ-48 for the past three months from Questar. I don't know wtf is taking so long. I might be the only Canadian to have one!
Tiriaq: Poland was part of the Soviet Union, so the "Soviets" did. I'm not sure if the WZ-48 was used outside of the Polish Soviet Socialist Republic, but it may indeed have been used throughout the empire.
Edit: More info copied and pasted from two web sites:
KbK S WZ-48 (Official Designation)
karabinek sportowy wz.48
The training 5,6mm (.22LR) rifle was designed by Bohdan Szpaderski and was called "karabinek sportowy wz.1948" (or "kbks wz.48" for short). In fact it was based on the Polish kbks wz.31 made before WWII and not on the Russian Mosin. It was produced from 1950 to the late 50s in large numbers. It was bolt action .22LR training rifle, weight 3,8kg, length 1130mm, barrel length 630mm, sight line 530mm, Vo=350m/s.
Polish 22 cal. training rifle "karabinek sportowy wz.48" or M1948 Training Rifle patterned after the Moisan Nagant M44 (used up into the middle 80's for training purposes) {details thanks to 'Leszek Erenfeict, Warszawa, Poland}
Tiriaq: Poland was part of the Soviet Union, so the "Soviets" did. I'm not sure if the WZ-48 was used outside of the Polish Soviet Socialist Republic, but it may indeed have been used throughout the empire.
Edit: More info copied and pasted from two web sites:
KbK S WZ-48 (Official Designation)
karabinek sportowy wz.48
The training 5,6mm (.22LR) rifle was designed by Bohdan Szpaderski and was called "karabinek sportowy wz.1948" (or "kbks wz.48" for short). In fact it was based on the Polish kbks wz.31 made before WWII and not on the Russian Mosin. It was produced from 1950 to the late 50s in large numbers. It was bolt action .22LR training rifle, weight 3,8kg, length 1130mm, barrel length 630mm, sight line 530mm, Vo=350m/s.
Polish 22 cal. training rifle "karabinek sportowy wz.48" or M1948 Training Rifle patterned after the Moisan Nagant M44 (used up into the middle 80's for training purposes) {details thanks to 'Leszek Erenfeict, Warszawa, Poland}
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Wouldn't it be correct to say that Poland was part of the Warsaw Pact like East Germany, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary? They weren't an ex-soviet republic like say... Ukraine. When I check my old books from the cold war, they quite clearly show various aircraft with the distinct red and white checker insignia at times.
Speaking of .22 trainers, did the Czechs ever make one for the vZ-58?
The USSR was a federalist structured state, meaning that all of the member states had a certain amount of false "autonomy" (because in truth everything was administered from Moscow and populist consensus was staged).The commander of the Warsaw pact was also the supreme military commander of the USSR.
If there is a distinction I would say it's moot. All former Soviet Republics were "Republics" and weren't fully divested of statehood and integrated. I'm not sure about Ukraine, as I know very little about it or whether it was completely divested of all autonomous state symbols etc. My supervisor for my MA thesis, however, was Ukrainian, so I could find out!
- Location
- Tucson, Arizona
Quite rare indeed.
A picture of a Polish Wz48 trainer.
One question. Where did you get that sling? Or did it come with it?
Mine doesn't have one, and I would like to put one for mine.
Interesting. Although I mentioned the Ukraine, I'm thinking mostly of the newly independent Central Asian republics. While the Soviets called the shots throughout the WP, you see distinct member countries with differing equipment (Czechs with the vZ.58 for example) and definite national insignia. Going through some older books, you see E. German, Czech, and Polish markings on aircraft (apart from the Soviets and their Red Star, of course). Don't see any with the Ukrainian blue-gold or say... Kazak flags though. I admit to the very likely possibility that I am mistaken of course.
