.22 pellet advice.

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Looking to purchase some heavier weight pellets to go with my 1000fps Hatsan 125. I am looking at either JSB monsters 25.4gn or Eun Jin 28.4gn.
Any reason to pick one over another? Any other suggestions? H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme?

I did pick up some crosman's today just for the break in and letting my kid blast away for a bit without wasting good ammo. I dont remember them being so low quality, not even round... Makes me wonder if ill even be able to sight in the scope with them?
 
The velocity claims on many of these rifles are based on the use of super lightweight pellets, which usually prove useless for any practical shooting.
The reality of the velocities usually seen with a "normal" weight pellet, of around 14.3 grains, is more in the 750 to 800 FPS range.

IMO, the pellets that you have referenced are far too heavy for your springer rifle, and will not only result in a drastically reduced velocity, but will also tend to stress the mainspring. Those heavy pellets are designed for use in the higher power PCP guns, not springers.

Either the JSB Jumbo Express at 14.3 grains, or the JSB Jumbo, at 15.9 grains would be far better choices for your gun.
 
Leonard basically nailed it - for springers, the sweetspot in .22 guns for pellet weight is between 14 and 15.5 grains. That's a nice gun, and you'll want it to last - using pellets too light or too heavy will have adverse effects on the life of the gun.

Crosman makes a big variety of pellets, from very crappy to very reliable. A universally appreciated .22 pellet is the Crosman Premier HP. I use them all the time and have had many tins where 100% were shootable pellets.
 
I've also had luck with crosman premier hollowpoints. 13 bucks for 500 at CT. You obviously got a tin of crosmans that was damaged, shaken, dropped, and abused, because i've NEVER had a single pellet that wasn't perfect from them. These are maybe not "match grade" pellets, but they consistently shoot better than any rws or gamo pellets i have tried in my guns.

I thought about those jsb exact jumbo monsters, but for a spring gun, they're really not what you want. You'd be shooting in the neighbourhood of 500fps with those, they're really meant for pcp/hpa guns.

What you really need to do is go to the store and buy a tin of every pellet they have, then go to another store and do the same. Try every pellet you possibly can. Pellet rifles are like .22 rifles. Some shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards with $2/box winchester wildcats, but spray $25 Eley's all over the place.

Oh, and make sure your gun is actually broken in. Fire a full 500-1000 shots out of it before trying to do anything too serious. Either that, or you can tackle disassembling, deburring everything, honing the cylinder and piston, polish your spring, etc, and cut that break in down signifigantly.

If you fire jumbo heavys or eun jin 28 grainers, you'll be lucky if your mainspring lasts 1000 shots.
 
mwjones said:
I've also had luck with crosman premier hollowpoints. 13 bucks for 500 at CT. You obviously got a tin of crosmans that was damaged, shaken, dropped, and abused, because i've NEVER had a single pellet that wasn't perfect from them. These are maybe not "match grade" pellets, but they consistently shoot better than any rws or gamo pellets i have tried in my guns.

I thought about those jsb exact jumbo monsters, but for a spring gun, they're really not what you want. You'd be shooting in the neighbourhood of 500fps with those, they're really meant for pcp/hpa guns.

What you really need to do is go to the store and buy a tin of every pellet they have, then go to another store and do the same. Try every pellet you possibly can. Pellet rifles are like .22 rifles. Some shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards with $2/box winchester wildcats, but spray $25 Eley's all over the place.

Oh, and make sure your gun is actually broken in. Fire a full 500-1000 shots out of it before trying to do anything too serious. Either that, or you can tackle disassembling, deburring everything, honing the cylinder and piston, polish your spring, etc, and cut that break in down signifigantly.

If you fire jumbo heavys or eun jin 28 grainers, you'll be lucky if your mainspring lasts 1000 shots.
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Yep, I run Crossman Premier HP in my .22 Nitro Venom... I tried all the .22 cal variants I could find locally and they shot the best truthfully...just lucky they are also the cheapest.
 
I really like the Crossman Premier hollow points. They weighed in a 14.4 grains average for a quantity of ten. JSB's are great too, but they don't sell them locally, so I use the best of what I can buy in town.
 
OK so ill rethink my heavy weight options.
Actually the crosman did OK tonight. I can only get out to around 50-60 feet due to the amount of snow in the yard but they are fairly consistent.
So it can take 500-1000 rnds to break my gun in? wow im going to have to practice every chance I can get.
 
I use CPHPs a lot but lately I've tried the pointed hunting pellets, the can I got says Copperhead hyper velocity hunting pellets but they are just repackaged Crosman pointed hunting pellets. To my surpise they are more acurate in my B50 than the hollow points and I usually stay away from pointed pellets in general especially in my .177 as they are usually terrible. I have tried .22 RWS super points and they work in my springer but not the PCP, the pointed Crosmans don't work in the springer. I do occasionaly get the odd wild flyer with CPHPs but they are pretty consistent from can to can. I was thinking of trying JSBs and H&Ns but I don't want to have order them in with postage etc. too pricey. CPHPs go for 10 something for 500 at TSC
 
Gamo and Daisy pellets look like someone chewed on them and spit them out into the can. And the skirts are really lacking uniformity in thickness. That said, they work fine at 5 paces.
 
garmic said:
I do occasionaly get the odd wild flyer with CPHPs but they are pretty consistent from can to can.
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I had this problem for a while with a gun I had tuned myself, and it was frustrating. Turned out I had an almost microscopic burr in the muzzle that was creating a direction change once in a while. Pellets are so damn sensative to stuff like this - take a q-tip and put it in the end of the barrell and lightly brush it around. If any of the fibres get caught to anything, you'll need to fix or have that fixed if you want to expect consistant accuracy. Sounds stupid, I know, but it makes a noticeable difference.
 
I'm surprised the crosmans you bought looked poor, I'm running CPHP's in my HW80 and I like them. I thought they were very uniform well made pellets. I plan to order some H&N FTT's, I just hope the shipping isn't too bad.
 
I go up to 21gr with my RWS 350 in .22, having said that those CP HP are krazy insanely accurate, I put a red dot on that rifle cause the sights kinda sucked alot, and that made all the diffrence, now squirells are just a legend in my neighborhood. (Invasive species here) , if you can get your hands on a pumper you could use those Monsters, that would be fun, I ve got an old 140, but a Benjamin would be just as good too.
 
I'm not sure why the JSB Monsters would be such a bad idea, you've got lots of power in that rifle. I'm no expert, but I don't get why running a heavier pellet is hard on the mainspring. More stress on the seal, I could understand. Too light of pellets damaging the gun from the piston slamming forward too fast i get. But why are heavy pellets hard on the spring?
 
The problem with using too heavy of a pellet is it causes the spring to bounce because of the higher pressure needed to push the pellet out the barrel. The bouncing will cause the spring to break.
 
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