sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I don't pretend to be a world class shooter, but I do enjoy shooting at least once a week in the bullseye league and squeezing off the odd free pistol match.
Agree with you that the euro guns are more ergonomic and more refined... but they aren't all that more accurate.
A few years back back we did some test at 25 yards (I know, it's not very far... but that's as far as we could go with the indoor range) using a mechanical rest... Shooting Eley Club, all guns made one ragged hole. (GSP, Ruger MK2, MCM Margolin, HS Supermatic, IZH35, and my father's S&W M46)
A shooter from Connecticut did a similar test at 50 yards (can't remember the ammo he used) and all the guns he had came in under 2" with most brand of ammo, with 1,25"-1.5" been the standard groups with their 'prefered' ammo.
Personnally, the things that bug me most about my Mk2 are;
- When using T22, needs a cleaning overy 250rds or so.
- The trigger (could be easily improved with a Volquartsen sear)
- The rear sight (way to narrow when compared to the GSP/IZH35)
- The not-so-ergonomic grips (again, could easily be fix by ordering decent target grips for it... but since there are a few other 'backup' gun I can fall onto before this one, I never bothered...)
Personnally (again) I don't think the exact same model of firearm been made for a number of years is a bad thing. On the contrary, it probably means the designer did a good job the first time around.
S&W M41, hasn't really been changed since the early 60's...
Walther GSP, hasn't really been changed since the early 70's...
Unique DES69, hasn't really been changed in it's 20 years of production...
Hammerli 208, hasn't really been changed since the early 60's...
MCM Margolin, not much changed since the early 50's...
IZH 35, pretty much unchanged since the late 70's...
A fellow shooter at the club kind of realized that the latest design isn't always the best idea... For a few months he had Matchguns MG2. Very nice ergonomic, very pointable, easy follow through... unfortunatly he could never make it through a match without some sort of jam... tried god knows how many different brand of ammo... got the dealer to 'do' stuff on the gun...
Eventually. he just upgraded to a AW93
Agree with you that the euro guns are more ergonomic and more refined... but they aren't all that more accurate.
A few years back back we did some test at 25 yards (I know, it's not very far... but that's as far as we could go with the indoor range) using a mechanical rest... Shooting Eley Club, all guns made one ragged hole. (GSP, Ruger MK2, MCM Margolin, HS Supermatic, IZH35, and my father's S&W M46)
A shooter from Connecticut did a similar test at 50 yards (can't remember the ammo he used) and all the guns he had came in under 2" with most brand of ammo, with 1,25"-1.5" been the standard groups with their 'prefered' ammo.
Personnally, the things that bug me most about my Mk2 are;
- When using T22, needs a cleaning overy 250rds or so.
- The trigger (could be easily improved with a Volquartsen sear)
- The rear sight (way to narrow when compared to the GSP/IZH35)
- The not-so-ergonomic grips (again, could easily be fix by ordering decent target grips for it... but since there are a few other 'backup' gun I can fall onto before this one, I never bothered...)
Personnally (again) I don't think the exact same model of firearm been made for a number of years is a bad thing. On the contrary, it probably means the designer did a good job the first time around.
S&W M41, hasn't really been changed since the early 60's...
Walther GSP, hasn't really been changed since the early 70's...
Unique DES69, hasn't really been changed in it's 20 years of production...
Hammerli 208, hasn't really been changed since the early 60's...
MCM Margolin, not much changed since the early 50's...
IZH 35, pretty much unchanged since the late 70's...
A fellow shooter at the club kind of realized that the latest design isn't always the best idea... For a few months he had Matchguns MG2. Very nice ergonomic, very pointable, easy follow through... unfortunatly he could never make it through a match without some sort of jam... tried god knows how many different brand of ammo... got the dealer to 'do' stuff on the gun...
Eventually. he just upgraded to a AW93


















































