.22 rifle question and Hunting rifle question

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Hello all, I'm pretty new at this firearms deal and I'm not too familiar with the technical terms, so please bare with me :)

I am looking to purchase a rifle as soon as I get my PAL and was wondering what to ask for..

I do want a good quality bolt action 22 that is possibly left handed (left eye dominant grrr..) and has a clip.. what ever that is called (repeater?)

And I also would like to know what kind of hunting rifle I should get.. Probably just going white tail hunting up in the bush here in Sask. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
 
I would look maybe at one of the Savage model .22's. There are some models in left hand.

For a hunting rifle, and if its for whitetails, I would look at a Stevens 200, Savage, Weatherby Vanguard, Tikka t3 or Remington SPS.... All for 600 or less, stevens run 300 bucks.

I would look in a low recoiling caliber of 243 or 7mm-08.... or 25-06....
 
For the hunting rifle, and being just for dear, you cannot go wrong with the good ol' .30-06, and if you buy a Tikka T3 in that calibre, you will never, ever want to part with it. There is no finer rifle for under $1000. Some might go smaller, like a .270 or something, but I think the availabillity of many varieties of quality factory ammo and the very reasonable price for the ammo--as well as the dependability of knowing if you had to defend yourself against a bear, you certainly can use .30-06 (although I like my .375 H&H Mag for that peace of mind:D), it's just the best of the small to medium game hunting calibres. But do yourself a huge favour, buy yourself a Tikka T3, you will never regret it.

That's my 2 cents. Good luck!:sniper:
 
I phoned a gun shop in Regina and they highly recommended a tika and i think he told me the price on a 30-06 was 300$.. Sounds a little too good to be true.. lol
 
The interesting thing about firearms is that where quality is concerned the cartridge the rifle is chambered for makes little difference. If you need to spend $500 for a good quality centerfire, then the chances are that is what you should expect to pay for a good rimfire. The strength of the action is not where the expense lies, it is in the tolerances in the craftsmanship. Consider a mass produced replacement rifle barrel costs about $60 but a custom barrel from one of the better makers costs about $600, and it doesn't matter if the bore is .224" or .510".

The CZ is a top choice for a rimfire.

I would look on the Tradex site for a good quality centerfire rifle. There is a large selection of Husqvarna rifles, and a sprinkling of Brno's. For my money the Brno's are the more desirable of the two, and the prices reflect that. If the rifle you choose has some small defect, it can be addressed by a gunsmith for a nominal cost. Yes the rifles at Tradex are used rather than new, but these rifles are no longer in production and if they were new the price would be in the $2K range. For $1K, you can buy a Tradex rifle, send it out to a gunsmith to have the common split behind the tang repaired, have the stock cut to fit you, and have a good quality recoil pad installed and have the rifle back in your hands. If you insist the rifle must be new then you might consider Kimber's M-8400 Montana rifle or a new Ruger Hawkeye.

My personal top cartridge choice is the .30/06, but you might find a .270 more suitable as a dedicated deer rifle. If you go with a Tradex rifle; a Brno 601 in .308, a M-600 or a ZG-47 in .30/06, or a Husqvarna 1600-1640 in 6.5X55, 270, or 30/06 would all be excellent choices. While all of these rifles are right hand oriented, that does not prevent them from being fired left handed.
 
why get one .22 when you can get two? you can never have enough rimfires :)

pick up a Remington 597 semi-auto. they are $150 at LeBarons right now (with club card discount, if you dont have a Club card, get one - its only $20 and will pay for itself easily: itll save you 10% off scopes, mounts, ammo, cleaning supplies, etc). plus there is a $20 mail-in rebate on them. thats $130 for a new gun - you simply cant beat that.

that will tide you over plinking for awhile - in the meantime, keep an eye on the EE for a quality used bolt-action .22LR. something like a Winchester model 75, Anschutz sporter, CZ, Ruger 77/22, etc. there is a night and day difference between these rifles and the cheap, flimsy Savage bolt actions that most people get these days. Savage also has very unpredictable quality control on their rimfire line, and there are CGNers that have had to return multiple Savage rimfires because of glaring QC issues.

for a deer rifle i suggest the following:
buy your .22 or .22s. shoot them, a lot (just not at deer :D). borrow a deer rifle for your first season. by then youll have some idea of what you want in terms of fit, function, etc. then, armed with this knowledge, start looking for a rifle.
 
Zeth said:
Hello all, I'm pretty new at this firearms deal and I'm not too familiar with the technical terms, so please bare with me :)

I do want a good quality bolt action 22 that is possibly left handed (left eye dominant grrr..) and has a clip.. what ever that is called (repeater?)
Thanks!
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If you are using a scope or shooting open sights with one eye closed the dominant eye is not an issue and I would recommend going with whatever side is most convenient to shoulder and aim. I would go with a preference to a right hander if there is no discernable difference to you as right handed firearms are much easier to find in calibres and actions that you might wish to purchase.

If you ever want to try your hand at shotgun shooting then you may want to force yourself to adopt the left handed shooting style as eye dominance will definately come into play and it will make it easier for you to pick up and track the targets.

Cheers, Bob
 
manbearpig said, "that will tide you over plinking for awhile - in the meantime, keep an eye on the EE for a quality used bolt-action .22LR. something like a Winchester model 75, Anschutz sporter, CZ, Ruger 77/22, etc. there is a night and day difference between these rifles and the cheap, flimsy Savage bolt actions that most people get these days. Savage also has very unpredictable quality control on their rimfire line, and there are CGNers that have had to return multiple Savage rimfires because of glaring QC issues."

I certainly agree on getting good used guns. Your mention of a Winchester 75 made me drool, but they are scarce as hens teeth and pricey, with a capital P, if you did find one. The much higher quality Winchester Model 52 are strictly collectors items. In years past I won a great many turkies at turkey shoots, shooting a model 75. All shooting was from off hand and my brothers 75 that I used was a heavier target model.
I have shot, actually several, Model 52 Winchesters, in both the rare sporting size and the heavier ones. In spite of its cost, I could never shoot the sporter model any better than I could much less costly rifles. The sporting model is now very scarce.
However, back in the glory days of this kind of shooting, I shot a bit at the Calgary club, and they were one of the top clubs in Canada. I was amazed at how some of the top shooters were using the Model 69 Winchester in the sporting rifle class, which is away down the line from the model 75 and not to be mentioned in the same breath as a Model 52.
I still have a Model 69 and they are a good 22. Bolt action with a clip, good trigger, (not super) and well balanced. In sporting competition, I could shoot this just as well as I could shoot a friends classy Model 52 Winchester.
Model 69s show up at gun shows, along with equally desirable Remingtons, Marlins and a few more brands. To my mind, these are head and shoulders over the new 22s, except for the new expensive target types.
 
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I suggst you make a point of buying a 22 with the same kind of action as your hunting rifling. That is, buy a pair of bolts, or levers, or pumps.

Quality rifles last forever, so buying used is a good idea. Tradex has some real interesting rifles at attractive prices. They have some O/U combination rifles, if you want to be different. Look in the EE section here.

I have several hundred hunting rifles my wife has asked me to sell, so if you have anything in mind, drop me a PM. The only lefty I have is a left Anschutz 22 target rifle. probably a single shot.
 
Zeth said:
Hello all, I'm pretty new at this firearms deal and I'm not too familiar with the technical terms, so please bare with me :)

I am looking to purchase a rifle as soon as I get my PAL and was wondering what to ask for..

I do want a good quality bolt action 22 that has a clip.. what ever that is called (repeater?)
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What you describe would be called a bolt action repeater. It really is not called a clip as much as it is a detachable magazine.
 
Be careful with a savage rimfire in bolt action in the cold they will sometimes not hit the round hard enough to make it go bang. I think it is because of the grease they are filled with at the factory. It caused me to loose 2 coyotes in one day with a .17rimfire and it was only -10C
 
Firstly, the actions of all riflles should be cleaned with something like kerosene, then not oiled, before taking them out in severe cold.

And Mr. Ganderite, you have it right, with this statement;
"I suggst you make a point of buying a 22 with the same kind of action as your hunting rifling. That is, buy a pair of bolts, or levers, or pumps".

I have been basically bolts all my life, learned levers later in life, shot the scatter guns in either auto or double barrel, both sxs and o+u. Never owned a pump, never got used to using a pump.
Brother, who always used a pump, and I are in a boat, waiting for geese. For something to do, we trade guns. Geese come over, I shoot one shot, but the second barrel won't go off (on brothers pump!)
Brother shoots one shot with my double. I ask him why he didn't shoot again. He said he was trying to pump another shell in it, when he realized what he was doing, the geese were too far.
 
As H4831 stated, the Older Winchesters, models 52, 75 and 69/69a are great, with the former two demanding premium prices these days. I have two 52's, a pre-A and a C model, plus a very nice 69a. I shoot the 52's in competition a bit, but the 69a is just a sweetheart to carry for plinking and varmint elimination. Remington 5-teen series rifles are also very good, as is a used 581. Another older, available boltgun that is not as pricey, is the Mossberg 42 and 340 series. While not as aesthetically pleasing as the Winchester 69, these are usually fine shooting rifles, and can be had for less $$. If you are set on new, then the CZ 452/453 rifles are great for the bucks spent. As for using the same actions, I am all for that suggestion also. Keeps you from being confused easily. Regards, Eagleye.
 
I know you were specifically asking about bolt action repeaters with clips but you should consider, for a nice little .22, look for a good used Cooey bolt action repeater. They were generally a tube fed magazine, not a clip. A good little plinker none and great for varmint elimination.

I too think what Ganderite said make sense. What ever way you go, bolt or lever for your .22, I would look for the same in action when buying your deer rifle.
 
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