.22 Semi Auto Trouble shooting

Kano

Kano

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Alright, so I am trouble shooting/doing a soft restoration on an old Savage 7J semi Auto - CIL Model 181.

I cannot get the damn thing to cycle. Ive tried:

higher power ammo
lower powered ammo
replace recoil and hammer springs
stoned mirror finish sear surfaces
replaced the trigger group(also where the sear surfaces are)

At this point im running out of ideas. I am starting to think that the barrel might be shot out and perhaps the cartridge is too lose in the chamber and there is blowby? Is that even possible?

Its a fun .22 project gun Ive been messing around with for 15 years in different ways, but does anyone have any brainstorming on thing I could do to get the gun to cycle?
 
Not to sound like an idiot but have you looked inside the receiver on the sides to see if the bolt is binding . as in is there side to side play in the bolt because it's well used and what it rides on is worn out or bent ? scoring marks anywhere on the inside that is impeding the bolt from cycling ? let me know please .
 
If you are getting extraction/ejection, I'd be incline to follow up on the 'binding' suggestion, from the rear of where the bolt travels. Look for deformed parts, bent spring guides, screw ends that extend into the bolt path (or the path of other moving parts), and if all that checks out, consider that it may have been assembled with a wrong replacement part at some point. Too long a spring, or guide for same, etc.

The fired bras checks out OK? No signs of deformation there, etc?
 
If it is an old gun the first thing is to clean it really good.Any gunk,old powder residue;solidified grease, etc, will gum the action up, especially in semis, as they get shot the most rounds through.Soak the bolt in Hoppes, or mineral solvent, and spray brake cleaner, on the stuff you are nervous taking apart.Eventually things smooth out , as these guns are often neglected, and then put away because they didn't function afterwards.Your extractors are working but your chamber might be tight.I would scrub that chamber with a bronze bore brush, and soak it until green gunk comes out the barrel.....Always suspect the simplest of things, first of all.They will stop your firearm from functioning.
 
Hi,
I had a similar problem with my Marlin .22lr. I had to cycle manually to #### the hammer and reset the trigger. Oddly, on that particular day, I shot really well. Maybe because I was so frustrated, I really focused hard on clearing my mind and paying attention to my breathing rhythm, to try to clear my mind.

In my case the problem was a very loose lower assembly. I had torn it down for a deep clean and like an idiot, forgot one or two of those little c-clips that hold the side-plates together. This caused the assembly to be so loose that it flexed instead of resetting.

I hope you get your problem sorted out.

Cheers,
Neil
 
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