.22 short from a 10/22?

This is incorrect. 10/22's will reliably feed long ammo also (such as CB Long's), they "occasionally" feed shorts, although not "reliably" without modification.
 
one_civic said:
The way I see it, it's like having a shotgun for 3.5" shells and using 2.3/4.
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That would hit the nail on the head if 12ga 2 3/4 shells cost more than 3 1/2 shells. :)

Noise is the only reason I might be interested, so it just makes sense to stick with the 22lr subsonics that I fed it before.
 
CharlesT said:
Polishing the bolt really helps. Have you radiused it? That is a very helpful modification.

CT
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Since I'm unsure of what you mean, I think the answer is no. I basically just polished all contacting / wearing points of the bolt, cocking piece, hammer...its been a while so my memory is a bit foggy.

Could you please describe what you are referring to and what advantage it has?
 
landphil said:
Since I'm unsure of what you mean, I think the answer is no. I basically just polished all contacting / wearing points of the bolt, cocking piece, hammer...its been a while so my memory is a bit foggy.

Could you please describe what you are referring to and what advantage it has?
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Here you go.

ht tp://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251031

RFC is THE place for 10/22 info.

CT
 
CharlesT said:
Here you go.

ht tp://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251031

RFC is THE place for 10/22 info.

CT
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Thanks, looks interesting I hadn't seen that when I was digging for answers over there a few years ago. I haven't had a stovepipe in about 1000 rnds since I polished the action and replaced the crappy factory extractor with a VQ, but looks like good plan for next time it's torn down.
 
In two of my rifles , the .22 shorts have poorer accuracy than lr rounds , maybe due to the jump in the chamber.

But what I also get is more blowback through the gas vent hole , even bits of lead. that can't be good.
 
"...won't cycle the action..." And you'll have to give the chamber a good scrubbing afterwards. Same reason as after shooting .38's out of a .357 revolver.
 
After a bit of work I have a 10/22 that will cycle .22 short, however, I have yet to find a mag that feeds them well. Subsonics work well, but no luck with really slow loads like CCI quiet.
Even if you do a bunch of chamber damage from shooting shorts as some feel you will....buy a new barrel, it is a 10\22, check the EE....what 50$ everyday.....
 
there's kits to make the .22 short run in the 10/22 comes with a new mag and bolt and some new springs but its almost $200 and pointless one could mod mags them self and put in some lighter spring to see if it would work the kit has a lighter bolt too
 
sunray said:
"...won't cycle the action..." And you'll have to give the chamber a good scrubbing afterwards. Same reason as after shooting .38's out of a .357 revolver.
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never had real bad build up in my cooey but then again im not shooting thousands at a time and anything that builds up is always easy to remove with a brush and solvent
 
hoytcanon said:
Many aftermarket bolt manufacturer's package their bolts with different power springs... I have most of them, including a number of Tony Kidd's, VQ's, RT's etc... The power springs are so that you can tune for specific ammo's at a given energy level... If the spring is light and marked ".22 short" (I have not seen that designation in Kidd's literature with their aftermarket bolts) I can guaranty that it will NOT function in a 10/22 with short ammo... There is more involved to making a semi function with shorts than just changing the spring... Some have been mentioned above, namely magazine function, bolt weight and rebound rate which is also a function of action system friction (not just weight and spring tension)... A few years ago I did a shorts project gun and had it up and running perfectly with the VQ shorts kit and modified mags, but it was a lot of work and tinkering to get it working properly... I sold the gun and now just shoot semi's in dedicated subsonic guns in "bench" configurations and HV guns in speed/plinking/hunting configurations. I do also shoot bolt actions and have one gun set-up for CCI Quiet's. In my opinion there is little advantage to shooting shorts in semi guns when there are so many options now in low-energy long and long rifle loads. But to answer the OP's original question, "yes" you can safely shoot shorts in your LR chamber.
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After looking at the Kidd information again, as it's been awhile, the weakest spring was for subsonic loads, the medium one for standard, and the
strongest one for HM2 ammo with barrel change. The weakest spring was designed for cycling subsonic ammunition, not necessarily shorts.
 
I realize that you guys are talking about 10/22s, but I fed some various .22 rimfire through my Norinco M93 and it fired AND cycled with .22 shorts, but I had to manually cycle it firing .22 CB Longs.
 
Blairito said:
just so you know volquarsten makes a 22 short magazine like the stock mag
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Here's mine:

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