22 vs 9mm pistol to learn on

Unless you have ZERO experience wiht guns and recoil, I dont' see why you wouldn't go 9MM...

I am not apro handgunner, but I find the 9mm recoil virtually non-existent...
 
ive decided to buy both, 22 isnt very expensive and when im at univ or want a change from the 9mm i can bring it out. also good for new people who havent shot a gun before. for a 9mm im just going to go with an armco tuned norc, nothing fancy.
 
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good for you- the only caveat against the norc m93 is sometimes there are lemons, but hopefully with gunnar in the picture, that won't happen- and he stands behind his work- i wish he would have been around when i got mine- truth be told i just plain got lucky - i got mine from lever- other folks after me , not so- and the only advice i have is NOT to take it to pieces completely unless you've got all the stars in alignment , the good fairy sitting on your shoulder , and a piece of the blarney stone on your desk- they can BE a you know what to put back together-
i'd also go with a 9mm 1911 single stack from armco, for much the same reasons
 
yea i normaly wouldnt buy a cheap knock off gun for the reason it could be a lemon, but ive been reading lots of good stuff about the work gunnar does and it seems like a good route for a first(or second) pistol
 
I started out with a ruger mk2, but I would suggest the new ruger mk3 with the 1911 gripframe so the grip memory will transfer over to most centerfires. Im thinking of picking up a stainless version, but not for a year or so for sure. The great thing about the rimfire is you can afford to shoot, and you don't have to take the time to reload centerfire. The speed and accuracy and skill you can achive with the 22lr is phenomenal.

A good s&w wheel gun in .357mag/38spl.is also a great gun even for beginers. Even though I don't own one yet, I have shot the best groups with a handgun with fellow range members 586, on double action no less(under and inch at 10yards). I have to get one of these some day.
 
From what I have seen at the range, because of the .22 ammo is cheap, people just don't care to throw the bullet down range and end up have fun but learn nothing. I have talk to a few experienced shooter and they all said a revolver is a better way to learn accuracy. 38spl or 38+p is a good cal to start with. Of course 9mm won't kick much harder than 22lr. I think 9mm is good to go because you can also start reload you own ammo.

Trigun
 
Trigun said:
I have talk to a few experienced shooter and they all said a revolver is a better way to learn accuracy. 38spl or 38+p is a good cal to start with.
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How do you learn accuracy? I'll sum up accuracy for you - line up the sights and hit your target. It's the same with revolver or a semi-auto. Learning how to shoot the two can be very different, for example, my thumbs forward grip does not work on a revolver.

Of course 9mm won't kick much harder than 22lr.
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Obviously you haven't shot the two.
 
i'm starting out with a 17c 9mm so far i find i pull down on my shots for some reason but i'm confident i'll be able to fix that with a few more boxes of ammo,some guidance, and dry firing exercises.:)
 
heavenIsAlie said:
I'm looking at getting more into pistol shooting in the future, and i was wondering what you guys would say is better to learn on.
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Getting back to your original question.........I personally think that a .22lr pistol is good to learn with. Why? You won't be worrying about recoil to start and can focus on sight picture, trigger control and breathing. When you move to a larger calibre, the basics should be perfected and you can concentrate on recoil management. What I've seen from beginners who start with centrefire guns are flinches and/or poor holds/grips that cause the shot to go off target, they then tweak the crap out of their sights and when that brings no satisfaction, they blame the gun. If you can shoot consistently and accurately with a .22lr then you will know that your basics are good to go and you will never have to question that. Anyhow, just my 2 cents worth. WTF do I really know anyhow............:bsFlag:
 
While I enjoyed shooting a Ruger .44 mag a couple of years ago, I did flinch when firing it. A comparable Ruger .22 wheelgun was equally as fun to shoot and still had plenty of recoil. After all, when buying a handgun it's probably for the 'fun' factor more than anything else, so in that regard the .22 was more than sufficient.
 
.22lr will bore you to tears in no time. If you can afford the ammo go 9mm. The learning curve may be a bit steeper with 9mm but.......way more fun.
 
Whyveear said:
How do you learn accuracy? I'll sum up accuracy for you - line up the sights and hit your target. It's the same with revolver or a semi-auto. Learning how to shoot the two can be very different, for example, my thumbs forward grip does not work on a revolver.


Obviously you haven't shot the two.
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Hee Hee....I have 357mag, 9mm and .22 and I shoot them all every time at the range and I can shoot them quite well. I cannot see 9mm kicking too hard for anybody. Having said that I shoot 38+p better:D

Trigun
 
Just wondering, is there a .22 conversion kit available for the USP 9mm? I was looking at that for my first handgun and if there is one available that would be even better.
 
heavenIsAlie said:
so i figure its between grab a p22 or something similar and learn on that then buy a bigger one. or other option is buy a 9mm and use that to learn.
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Buy a Glock17, then buy the .22lr slide and magazine to shoot .22lr. get the Advantage .22lr that has the same sights as the G17 (there are 2 models). Put 30,000 rounds of .22lr thru it. Also shoot 9mm when you feel like it. Then use the G17 in IPSC production, IDPA and PPC
use the G17 in Bullseye with both 9mm and .22lr. Get a Dillon 650 press to load 9mm. (9mm cases are free).
 
Everyone that has replied has made excellent and valid points.

I would like to add this: choose the 22 LR unit that most closely resembles the type of firearm you intend to get and/or the type of shooting you want to do. If you like revolvers, consider getting the Smith & Wesson Model 17,18,48 (the older blued without the full underlug - my personal favourite) or the Model 617 (stainless with the full underlug). These models are 99.9% similar to their bigger brethren, the .38/.357/.44 models. This will allow realistic training at fractions of the $$ cost. If you are considering getting a semi-auto, consider the CZ 75 Kadet conversion kit or the entire pistol as this is 99.9% similar to its bigger 9 mm brother. If you have a chance to get the Advantage Arms 22 LR for the Glock, you one of the lucky few and should seriously consider adding that to your collection whether you are a Glock fan or not. In regard to the 22LR models I mentioned, these models have full sized magazines which replicate the feel of its bigger calibre brethren, and in terms of the revolvers, you can get speed loaders too. This adds to the "realism" of the training with 22LR.

All said and done, the choice is yours and as I did, I looked at the type of shooting I do, and the type of firearm (pistol and revolver) and bought my collection accordingly. When the wallet was a little empty, it was nice to be able to blast off 500 rounds of 22LR... and when the wallet was heavy again, I transitioned to the bigger calibres seamlessly.

IMHO.

S&W Model 17, 48 & 66
Glock 17, 35 & 22 AA kit
CZ 75 22LR pistol
Rifles & Shotguns too
 
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