.22 vs airsoft practice

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so i was running this around in my head the other night and was wondering what everyone else thought about the comparison

whats better for practice, a .22LR conversion kit or an airsoft replica

here are the points i came up with
.22LR:
-still need to be at a range
-has the bang of a real bullet
-uses more expensive ammo (yea its not alot but its a point)
-has recoil

airsoft:
-can practice in your basement or backyard if you want
-not the crack of a bullet but still some noise
-still has recoil but unsure how much
-have to buy that "green gas" for it

so lets see what else you guys can add
 
It will only cost you around the 100$ for a quality pistol airgun, I actually use a crossman american classic that I have been using since I was 8 or so and have been working on the basics, sight alignment and trigger pull, in the warmth and comfort of my own house. I have a nice little backdrop to stop the pellets or BB's depending on what I choose to feed it, and i honestly think it works well. Its got pop can plinking ability at 20 yards or so, but due to the room limitations, I shoot around 8 or so in the house. Its about all I can do living in the big bad city of ottawa because I have nothing I could call a yard by any means. There are a few nice replica air guns out there, some have blowback, some do not, just read them up a little, some are all metal construction for more realistic weight, but I work with convenience, and the rifled barrel is nice for pests at distance.
 
heavenIsAlie said:
do airguns come in the same shapes ect as real guns? and have the blowback
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The airsoft guns that use "green gas" (butane/heptane/propane, I recall) do blowback. Not sure about the springers.

If you really want to practice grip, stance, trigger, breathing and folllow through, I'd get a Webly, Dianna or Hamerli PCPn gun.
 
you can practice with an airsoft gun but you need a good one, by good one i mean a tokio marui or a western arms plus you got to upgrade it whit a better barrel, springs, outer barrels and so on.
green gas is actually propane so it does not cost a lot.
the price of a fully upgraded airsoft pistol is about the same as a real steal pistol could go anyware between 500$ and 2000$.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=59781
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=66247
in somme parts of asia they actually practice ipsc whit airsoft pistols
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pE728I7370
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mq9ceishEw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PB7BNo0zWM&feature=related

a plus for airsoft is that you will find the same pistol you have so you can practice whit the same grip and feel.
 
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I have an old airsoft HK P7M13 that is remarkably like the real P7.

The good airsoft guns are remarkably well made, and as mentioned above, priced accordingly. The gas operated ones do have a pretty "feel" when fired because of cycling of the slide, but there is no real "recoil". Still, very good for practicing draws, getting on target and firing. Accuracy is good enough for basement shooting but they are not in the same category as a true target air pistol.


I have considered getting a good 1911 airsoft, Western Arms, but the problem is that Customs isn't letting them into Canada because the new ones (post 1995) are considered replicas and therefore prohibited.

The P7 I have is completely legal because it was obtained prior to 1995 and is therefor grandfathered under Bill C-68. The company actually went out of business in the early 1990's so there is no "grey area" with mine.

Now I wonder if these airsoft guns were firing a 6mm steel BB instead of a plastic BB, would they still be considered a replica or be placed in the same category as a BB or pellet gun under 500 fps.
 
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It has to be rifled pellet pistol with "single action" trigger. The ones that revolve drum with pellets are not good. I mean, they are good pisotls but teach you wrong habbits.

Them air pistols are more sensitive to barrel movement that happen with "hammer break". Pellet leaves barrel much later compared to 22 pistol hence is sensitivity. So theoretically it will teach you better trigget control, but then again it has got to be a good pistol to learn on.
 
Ok first my question(s).

What do you want to practice? Just holstering drills? Firing Drills? Reloads? Accuracy? Shooting in your house or a range?

All those would sway your decision.

An airsoft gun isnt accurate past 30-50 feet in an enclosed building, but lets you do 'real like' reloads since the ammo/gas are stored in the magazine. Since they are 1-1 scale you can use your duty holsters etc. And you can somewhat safely use them in your house.

Airguns usually store the ammunition internally in the gun same goes with gas, or they have a co2 canister that is screwed into the grip, but are more accurate (metal bbs to plastic pellets in airsoft) So no practicing reloads here for the most part. Mind you I havent looked into the newer airguns as of late.

If you want realism though yeah nothing beats a nice .22 you can get a conversion kit for almost anything nowadays. Reloads work like a real gun, (hey a 22 I dont consider a 'real gun' lol) and they can use the frames of whatever pistols you already might have.

I own a 92Elite in airsoft and a 92Inox in 9mm... I play with the airsoft now and again as I can shoot it around the house and screw around with it without having to worry about damaging my 9mm. Mind you, I've had mine since like Mid 90s. You can still brake stuff with it though. Mine shoots aorund 400 FPS so you have to take care either way.

And yeah Airsofts are a bit overpriced... parts are costing you about on par with real firearms, although ammo is cheaper than .22.

I was considering of getting a .22 conversion for the 9mm, but since I have to drive down to the range anyways it makes no differance.

Luke
 
well i would get an airsoft not an air gun since i want to be able to practice reloads ect and i would be able to use my current holster ext

no .22 conversion for the 229 so would have to go with the mosquito, which isnt bad and sits in my hand pretty nicely. plus some trigger time is better than no trigger time. but its not exactly the same like the airsoft would be
 
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