Canadian_Zuk
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- Pickering, Ontario
No, they are Volquartsen.
.223 bolt action VS Semi accuracy?
- Thread starter MackForce
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No, they are Volquartsen.
Methinks the semi vs bolt thing is one of those enduring gun myths that just won't die the cold death it deserves. If one wants to see the supposed issue with accuracy in a semi look no further then the shooter.
Case in point at the range hand an SKS to most bolt rifle users and tell them to shoot offhand. Watch for the majority to drop the muzzle just before the long creepy trigger breaks.
Be sure to yell NICE FLINCH when they do this, lol.
Yet hand the same rifle to a newbie after giving them instructions but without filling their heads with old myths and watch them shoot the center of the target out.
I wish I had kept the targets from the Benelli R1 I had... Or even better kept the rifle.
Case in point at the range hand an SKS to most bolt rifle users and tell them to shoot offhand. Watch for the majority to drop the muzzle just before the long creepy trigger breaks.
Be sure to yell NICE FLINCH when they do this, lol.
Yet hand the same rifle to a newbie after giving them instructions but without filling their heads with old myths and watch them shoot the center of the target out.
I wish I had kept the targets from the Benelli R1 I had... Or even better kept the rifle.
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Methinks the semi vs bolt thing is one of those enduring gun myths that just won't die the cold death it deserves. If one wants to see the supposed issue with accuracy in a semi look no further then the shooter.
Case in point at the range hand an SKS to most bolt rifle users and tell them to shoot offhand. Watch for the majority to drop the muzzle just before the long creepy trigger breaks.
Be sure to yell NICE FLINCH when they do this, lol.
Yet hand the same rifle to a newbie after giving them instructions but without filling their heads with old myths and watch them shoot the center of the target out.
I wish I had kept the targets from the Benelli R1 I had... Or even better kept the rifle.
Exactly. Look to the specific rifle and shooter, not class of rifle.
Robinson Arms XCR-L in 223 loaded with 60gr V-Max 200 yard target.
Swapped my Leupold VX111 4.5-14X40mm LR Varmint reticle scope onto my XCR-L in 223 zeroed it at 100 yards then cause I was running late to meet the wife I took 2 quick shots at 200 yards both hit the bull.
Not bad for a military style semi-auto rifle definitely taking it coyote hunting this winter.
(the 3rd shot in the orange is from my T/C Contender carbine in 204 Ruger)
Took these 3 a few years ago now loaded with 40gr V-max.
Swapped my Leupold VX111 4.5-14X40mm LR Varmint reticle scope onto my XCR-L in 223 zeroed it at 100 yards then cause I was running late to meet the wife I took 2 quick shots at 200 yards both hit the bull.
Not bad for a military style semi-auto rifle definitely taking it coyote hunting this winter.
(the 3rd shot in the orange is from my T/C Contender carbine in 204 Ruger)
Took these 3 a few years ago now loaded with 40gr V-max.
Not looking for a debate, but will chime in with my personal experience having owned, shot and loaded for many of both... the "average" bolt action is more accurate than the "average" semi auto... there are of course exceptions... and it depends on how much money you care to sink into the semi to get top notch accuracy... but in general I would think you will spend twice as much or more on the semi to get accuracy equal to the less expensive bolt action...
my buddy is dead set on getting a mini 14 because he wants "that second shot" option.
i tried to explain how it's far better to have 1 very accurate shot than 5 somewhat accurate shots,don't get me wrong on the ruger,i had one and loved it and if it was in my budget,i'd get another in a heartbeat!!!but i do think my savage 223 will group better at 1/3 the price.perhaps that's just me trying to console myself cause i can't afford one right now.lol
the volquartsen carries a far too hefty price tag for most but would without a doubt be an amazing semi auto tack driver and worth every cent!
i tried to explain how it's far better to have 1 very accurate shot than 5 somewhat accurate shots,don't get me wrong on the ruger,i had one and loved it and if it was in my budget,i'd get another in a heartbeat!!!but i do think my savage 223 will group better at 1/3 the price.perhaps that's just me trying to console myself cause i can't afford one right now.lol
the volquartsen carries a far too hefty price tag for most but would without a doubt be an amazing semi auto tack driver and worth every cent!
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
And to put it another way, for a semi-auto to achieve the same level of accuracy as a particular bolt gun, it will be more expensive. The question is whether or not you can exploit the advantages of the semi-auto to the extent that the difference in price can be ignored. The advantage of the gas gun is not it's rate of fire, but the fact that your sight picture, cheek weld and firing grip are not broken between shots. Thus a follow up shot on a dynamic target, like a coyote is surer than would be possible with the bolt gun. That is with the proviso that the shooter can deal with it's inferior trigger, which with effort and expense might well be acceptable, but will never compare with a good trigger on a bolt gun.
Boomer I totally agree.
My issue with semi-auto's especially for coyote hunting with my XCR-L is that accuracy is so good that I very rarely if ever need a second shot.
There have been a few times that I have caught them running full speed out in the open fields/range lands where I can get 5 - 6 shots off and that is super fun well worth the price of the semi.
I use 10 round LAR pistol mags in my XCR-L but I have never needed to shoot that many rounds I either drop the coyote or it disappears into the bush.
