.223 load question

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Hey folks, got a question for some of you who are experienced with the "small, fast" stuff... I've been reloading for a long time and with a lot of different calibres, but I only got into .223 recently. I have a Remington 700 SPS SS that I cut the barrel down to 19 inches on, with plans of using it for hunting smaller critters. Bullet of choice is a 50 grain Barnes TTSX, and some tests showed Varget to be a great powder... Here's where it got strange.

With most of the larger cartridges I'm used to loading, typically the rule seems to be that case brand isn't a huge deal, as long as any given batch is all the same. For instance, in my 7mm-08, I use FC, Hornady, and R-P brass, all giving me reasonably similar results, at least for hunting accuracy; I just don't "mix'n'match". A batch of R-P is all R-P and a batch of FC is all FC. Doing this yields 1 inch groups all day long... Not spectacular, but good enough for whacking deer.

NOW...

I have gotten some fairly satisfactory results from my .223 so far with PMC (surprisingly) and Hornady brass, having gotten 5-shot groups of 3/4 moa. I decided to make another batch for some final testing, this time using Barnes brass... The results were terrible. Best group of the day was 2 inches, worst was over 3. Upon getting home, I weighed some cases, a Hornady weighed in at 96 grains, a PMC at 95.3, but a Barnes was lighter... 93 grains. Is that enough of a difference to throw the accuracy for such a serious loop? Dealing with smaller powder capacities in a case this size, I know smaller variances will mean a larger percentage of difference, but I've never seen anything this drastic before.
 
I reload for a couple .223 savages a 12FV and an 11 Hunter Both are very accurate rifles. I use a variety of brass and keep
it in batches as you do. I recently acquired 200 once fired nickel plated Federal brass with crimped primers.
I resized trimmed and reamed the primer pockets and reloaded 50 of them with 68 grain Hornady HPBT Match bullets and 24.8 grains of Varget
A very accurate load in the 12FV. After reloading a batch of ammo I check the run-out of each cartridge with a fixture I built.
This batch of ammo all had run-out between .004" and .010" which surprised me. Inspecting some of the cases that I had not yet reloaded I found
large variations in the thickness of the case neck.

The 12FV groups under 5/16" at 100 yards consistently when I am having a good day. With this batch of ammo the group size was over an inch.

I have reloaded lots of Federal brass and never ran into this before most .223 reloads are between .001" and .003".


Here is a link to the fixture I use: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1010425-Bullet-Alignment-Truing-Fixture

Terry
 
Case size volume inside will be different from manufacturer to manufacturer, that can cause different pressures from different things. I try to keep with the same manufacturer with my .223 brass, they are very picky even when loading powder .2 of a grain will make big differences in such a small case.
 
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