223 vs. 22-250

The 233 WSSM only adds about 5% more velocity than the 22-250 using 20% more powder.

That 1% velocity increase per 5% powder increase is also seen when comparing the 223 and the 22-250, The 22-250 shows a dramatic 20% veocity increase over the 223 but it does it by using twice as much powder! (A 100% increase)

The 22-250 is a great cartridge and will work well in steady hands on coyotes out to the far side of 400 yards. The 223 is another great cartridge but it starts to shed velocity quickly after 250 yards or so. Even though at longer ranges the energy figures are still OK the rainbow trajectory, and the poor wind-bucking properties of a slow moving .22 calibre bullet combine to make good marksmanship difficult.

The question then is at what range do you expect to be shooting? If most of your shots will be inside of 300 yards the 223 will be more than adequate. If however you are looking at longer shots the 22-250 (or 220 Swift or 223 wssm) will be a much better choice.

As for fur-friendly bullets I personally have fallen in love with the 60 grain Nosler Partition out of my 22-250. Small enty and exit holes are the norm if you avoid hitting shoulder bones, (If you do put one through the shoulder the Partition will act like a FMJ and blow hundreds of bone fragments out through the off side! ) The partition also works very well on wolves if you happen to bring some in while calling coyotes!
 
BIGREDD said:
Yes I did look into 243 but saving pelts is nonexistent.
I don't understand this logic .... bullet choice will determine your pelt damage more than caliber choice. :shock:


I agree fully. I have shot coyotes with a 30-06 FMJ and it did a good job. the coyote ran about 8 yds but the blood spray in the snow was easy to follow. A nice little entry and exit wound
 
should have been 80 yds. they were not loaded that hot either.

also, I cant see the 223wsm doing much for you compared to the .22-250

.22-250 will knock em flat. what more do you want?
 
sorry,

should have said " I cant see the .223 wsm doing much more for you when compared to the . 22-250. the extra feet per second doesnt really matter.

try a hornady 55gr ballistic bullet in the .22-250.
 
:x So up to what weight of a bullet can I go with 1 in 12 twist?
What about loading 22-250 down to 223 velocities for plinking purposes? :?

Well, lets hear (read) some more opinions.

Anyone got any pics of what does what kind of damage?
 
gopher getter said:
should have been 80 yds. they were not loaded that hot either.

also, I cant see the 223wsm doing much for you compared to the .22-250

.22-250 will knock em flat. what more do you want?

I never said I wanted or even considered 223 wssm... I know that a 22-250 is plenty. :)
 
Sorry for the hyjack, but what about the 17 Rem?
How do they compare to a 22-250 in range? Hitting power?
 
2fat2fly said:
Sorry for the hyjack, but what about the 17 Rem?
How do they compare to a 22-250 in range? Hitting power?

17 is very good fur round but very affected by wind. Reloading is not easiest either (components) and even factory not many choices.
Well that is what I heard , read and so on. :?
 
Get the .22-250, its more versatile than the .223, especially on the "windy" Prairie! In terms of cost, you're looking at maybe $6.00 difference in 40 rounds of factory Winchester Whitebox .223 vs .22-250. As you're a reloader, that doesn't matter anyway, you'll be reloading your own for dimes on the dollar. Recoil really isn't a factor when shooting any centerfire .22, unless you weigh 80lbs soaking wet and have really bad osteo....If you're really sensitive, get a good recoil pad like a Pachmayr, Rem R3 or Limbsaver. Sure the .22-250 is a little louder than the .223, but who can tell while wearing ear protection? You're going to be wearing muffs at the range, and in a hunting situation on Coyotes, how many rounds do you expect to fire at one time? Even then you can opt for a pair of corded ear plugs or the in-the-ear electronic hunting aids that act as both hearing protectors as well as amplifying ambient sounds like and animal moving through the woods.
 
I'd like to get a 223 for a truck rifle or for walking around. For a dedicated 'yote rifle a 243 might be a beter choice or a 25-06 but as you go up in caliber so do expenses, recoil, noise, etc.

No good reason not to go with a 22-250. Unless you're shooting it a lot, and shooting it hot, you'll never wear out the barrel.
 
Pelt damage seems to be luck of the draw whether using heavier or lighter bullets. Even hard points can rip them bad if the bullet hits shoulder and tumbles. strange as it seems some light loads seem to enter and disintigrate leaving no exit. A lot will depend on range , impact velocity and which part is hit.
As for the .17 it works well on fox and coyote when ranges are not too extreme and the velocity is very high. Minimal pelt damage but as mentioned above not good for wind.
A firend has a 204 Ruger but he has been having trouble finding a pelt friendly load. Word is the pelts will not be worth much this year so take your pick.
 
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