.223
- Thread starter SksA1
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Silent8Strike
CGN Regular
- Location
- Ottawa, Ontario
I've found Winchester white box to be pretty good overall. Its cheap enough (8.50-10.00 a box), fairly accurate, clean, and you can even get it at Wal-Mart.
I use all of these and they reasonably priced IMO if you are not reloading...
PMC X-Tac 5.56 55gr FMJ Approx $375-$400 per 1000, plus tax
AM Tactical .223 55gr FMJ Approx $375-$400 per 1000, plus tax
MFS .223 55gr FMJ Approx $369/ 1000 plus tax
I may try these out...
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_108_109&products_id=969
PMC X-Tac 5.56 55gr FMJ Approx $375-$400 per 1000, plus tax
AM Tactical .223 55gr FMJ Approx $375-$400 per 1000, plus tax
MFS .223 55gr FMJ Approx $369/ 1000 plus tax
I may try these out...
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_108_109&products_id=969
Ok, I'll revise my earlier comment. It may be hard to define best, but steel cased ammo is definitely NOT a front runner for good stuff to run through your rifle. Steel on steel is a great way to loosen up your chamber.
lejarretnoir
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- 162km from Connaught
How did this happen? Pics?
you should first determine the twist rate and OAL of your barrel, as this will be parmount in deciding grain weight of your projectile. if your using an AR with 1:9 twist, it will probably be best with a 55 grain whereas a 1:7 likes the heavier stuff.
DaveMachine
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- That one place with a cowboy complex
I've had good luck with AE Tac 55gr and 55gr PMC Bronze. I hear 62gr PMC XTac shoots ok but I haven't tried it for myself yet.
Winchester whitebox and American Eagle 55gr and 62gr (in the red boxes) has shot like garbage in both my Stag and DD ARs.
Reloads - 69 SMKs and BL-C(2) worked great in my Stag. Haven't put any reloads through my DD yet. You might want to look at WC-735 powder from Higginsons - it's a surplus powder apparently - super cheap.
Winchester whitebox and American Eagle 55gr and 62gr (in the red boxes) has shot like garbage in both my Stag and DD ARs.
Reloads - 69 SMKs and BL-C(2) worked great in my Stag. Haven't put any reloads through my DD yet. You might want to look at WC-735 powder from Higginsons - it's a surplus powder apparently - super cheap.
- Location
- big sky country
Not necessarily. I had a 1:7 that loved 52 SMKs more than 77 SMKs.
My current 1:9 Rock River AR-15 loves 70 gr Berger VLDs. They are almost as long as 77 gr SMKs.
Average 50 yard groups:
You don't need pictures to know that two metals of equal hardness rubbing on each other will cause each other to abrade. This is one of the main reasons brass was chosen for cartridges. Brass doesn't scratch steel. Steel casings didn't really become popular until rifles with sloppy military chambers started making their way into civilian hands. Something that starts sloppy and loose isn't going to be noticeably worsened by steel cartridges. That said, most modern AR15s aren't known to be terribly sloppy to start with. No comment on Com-Bloc firearms though...
lejarretnoir
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- 162km from Connaught
Just trying to figure out how mild steel lacquered, polymered or copper washed cases are making chambers looser and scratching them. I'm curious if you have proof of this.
If you're asking if I have conducted a scientific study, then no I have no. But have you conducted any studies showing that it doesn't? Even if the steel was soft enough to not abrade the chamber, the lacquer doesn't belong in an AR15. Look at this warning on DPMS's website: http://dpmsinc.3dcartstores.com/Ammunitions-Warning_ep_59-1.html . The case walls of 5.56/.223 are too straight to displace the lacquer, and you're just asking for either a gumming up issue or an undersized chamber issue (the opposite of loose).
But hey, it's a free country, shoot steel cased ammo in your AR15.
