22LR Conversion Kit on a 1911....Change Certificate???

[justsomeguy]

Question, if I bought one of those 22LR conversion kits and put it on my 45 1911 what would that mean to the registration certificate? If I were to get stopped by the cops on the way to the range would they make a stink that my pistol was now a 22 and not a 45??

Even more important, could I change the cert to say 22 so when the Libs come to confiscate all pistols over 22 (which is all you really need for target shooting they'll say) I'd be able to keep it????

 

[DiSmAnTLeR]

LOL. what makes you think the dreaded liberals will allow you to keep a .22 pistol?

i dont imagine any reasonable police officer would care about a conversion kit, and they would have no reason to examine your guns unless you told them about them. out of sight, out of mind.

 

[justsomeguy]

Comments I've heard from supports of a ban whenever you bring up target shooting is..."well, then all you need is a 22, there is no need to ban them as they can't do any harm anyways"

Our range is south of town on Hwy 63. EVERY Sunday evening they have a roadblock set up to catch all the drunks/crackheads/etc coming back to FMM from their days off. I'm talking 15-20 officers, checking EVERY one of the thousands of cars. You never know when you're going to get some power tripping bylaw officer. When I'm with the family it's a license/registration for the vehicle and away you go. I can imagine the response when I go through with 1-2 guys in the truck, no visible luggage but a bunch of range bags in the back of the truck and several firearms cases in the back.

 

[colinjw]

IMO the gun is still a .45. If you had sold the .45 top end & now it is strictly a .22 then you have changed the caliber and probably would need to notify CFC.

A conversion kit is not considered a firearm & requires no registration. So what you now have is the .45 as registered and a conversion kit that you can keep, take on & off or sell.

I will qualify the above by stating I am not an expert on firearms laws.

 

[NAA]

This info from the Firearms Registration Certificates Regulations might answer your question for you:

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/SOR-98-201/page-4.html#anchorbo-ga:s_4

4. (1) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar, within 30 days after the modification, of
(a) any modification to the firearm that results in a change of class of the firearm;


(b) in the case of a firearm registered as a frame or receiver only, any modification that makes it capable of discharging ammunition;


(c) any modification to an altered automatic firearm; and


(d) any modification that results in the firearm ceasing to be a firearm.


(2) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that when the type, action, calibre or gauge of the firearm is modified, the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar of the modification,



(a) if the modification is intended to be permanent, within 30 days after the modification; and



(b) if the modification is not intended to be permanent but still exists 30 days after it is made, without delay after that period.

5. If the Registrar issues a registration certificate in respect of a firearm to a business that is the holder of a licence issued for the purposes prescribed by paragraph 22(f) of the Firearms Licences Regulations, the Registrar shall attach to the certificate the condition that the holder advise the Registrar, within 13 months after the modification, of any modification referred to in section 4, if the modification still exists one year after it is made.

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Personally, I would say your .22 unit is not meant [intended] to be a permanent alteration to your 1911 [.45ACP] frame and if you changed it back & forth with the .45ACP topend just inside every 30 days or so you would still be legal under the law and not be required to report the "change in caliber".

I would print off a copy of this regulation and keep it with your pistol when you go to & from the range just so it can be read by anyone who needs to "read it". I'd also take the .45 ACP top-end to the range with the pistol +/or assemble the .22 unit on the pistol at the range so it couldn't be left open to "interpretation" what your intent was...

NAA.