.22LR for learning precision.

AnotherDeerDown said:
Personally I would look into the ruger 10/22 great gun for the cost. deadly accurate and doesn't break the bank. Plus there are all sorts of stock upgrades and fun tactical stuff built for this rifle. Got mine about a month ago and I LOVE IT!
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No offense, but very few people would call a stock 10/22 deadly accurate and it certainly can't compare to either the Savage Mk.II or CZ rifles without spending a pile of money on aftermarket parts. They are fun guns to shoot but not something that can be called a precision rifle.


Mark
 
mmattockx said:
No offense, but very few people would call a stock 10/22 deadly accurate and it certainly can't compare to either the Savage Mk.II or CZ rifles without spending a pile of money on aftermarket parts. They are fun guns to shoot but not something that can be called a precision rifle.


Mark
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I agree. My stock 10/22 will do groups @ 25 yards that my Savage can beat @ 100 yards.
 
Breitling604 said:
Did you look into a CZ at all, or is the MkII strictly a budgetary decision?

I don't get the difference in accuracy from what I was told at both my local LGS.
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There may be a difference in accuracy...I've been shooting for 25+ years, and need more practice before I'll see a difference! There are some folks who can, just not me (yet). You do "get what you pay for", and the CZ's are certainly prettier/better finished.

10/22? You've added an orange to your apples. I personally don't care for 'em, but there are many who do. I saw the "deadly accurate" post, and am jealous of that poster's success with his. I no longer tolerate 'em on the premises.
 
I have a stevens a 1022 and a marlin all are accurate and good guns im tall all stocks need spacers for me the only one that needed stuff of the bat was the 1022 the trigger is stiff but great gun I would recommend starting with a stevens if you are new to get some trigger time and spend the rest of the budget on ammo to practice with later or put good glass on it they are all accurate enough to learn on and to get better it will take a long time for you to out shoot your rifle if you are new and once you have more range time and know what you like and what fits you because I love the cz but the stocks don't fit my build as well as cheaper guns with a good aftermarket something you wont learn to look for till you shoot 30 000 rounds everything you can hold well will seem to fit till you refine your technique I would also recommend the marling bolt nice gun great price but go to the rrange and play and find out what works for you
 
I got to agree with the couple of others, the 10/22 in NOT a good choice for what the OP is requesting. Don't get me wrong, I love the 10/22 and have 2 of them... but they are not "accurate" guns out of the box and require money being put into them to APPROACH being so.
 
Ok everyone thank you. I'm really torn between the Savage, likely a TR seems to fit what I want best as it's made in Canada, and waiting for a CZ.

I will have to think on it some more. It would appear CZ are months out, so thats ok, I have time.
 
22 precision said:
I have a stevens a 1022 and a marlin all are accurate and good guns im tall all stocks need spacers for me the only one that needed stuff of the bat was the 1022 the trigger is stiff but great gun I would recommend starting with a stevens if you are new to get some trigger time and spend the rest of the budget on ammo to practice with later or put good glass on it they are all accurate enough to learn on and to get better it will take a long time for you to out shoot your rifle if you are new and once you have more range time and know what you like and what fits you because I love the cz but the stocks don't fit my build as well as cheaper guns with a good aftermarket something you wont learn to look for till you shoot 30 000 rounds everything you can hold well will seem to fit till you refine your technique I would also recommend the marling bolt nice gun great price but go to the rrange and play and find out what works for you
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You might have some real einstien statements in there, but my eyes went cross eyed much too often to notice anything intelligent versus gibberish, in your single paragraph long sentence.

Hey, but that's just me.................:p
 
For what it's worth, I recently went through the same decision making process and ended up with a CZ 455 Varmint and a Marlin 795.

I paid 439 for the CZ from a sponsor here, and the Marlins of course are cheap any way you slice em. I got a Boyd's SS stock and Tech Sights for the Marlin and a scope for the CZ, and of course a Yodave kit on the way. I love the look of the Boyd's SS stock but I'm not sure yet about the cheek weld, I'm not sure if it's going to be a good fit for me. Overall I'm very happy with my decisions.

When the time comes a Savage TRR is high on my list to be next. Of course, I'm a lefty so the CZ452 left hand looks good too, but I still think the savage will be next.

The CZ's are out there, call around.
 
I think this thread boils down to this in retrospect: Precision shooting with a decent rifle and decent optics out to 100 is very feasible. However, if you decide to grind this out to further distances, such as 200 meters/yards, the weakest link is more often then not, your ammunition IMO.
If you push this envelope to 300, your going to need big changes to your rings and bases to make this somewhat realistic.
 
As others have said, the 10-22 and it's ilk (like the Mossberg 715t) are loads of fun...but not as accurate as a good bolt. They can be made to be accurate...but then you have a $300 gun and $700 worth of accessories.
As to the CZ vs Savage...accuracy wise it's a wash. They are both capable of sub moa accuracy with a bit of work. Finish is better on the CZ. If you want a gun to cherish and hand down to your kids buy the CZ.
If you're looking for accuracy on a budget go with Savage. With what you save on the gun you can buy a good scope (really...most sub $100 scopes aren't conducive to precision shooting) and ammo.
 
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