.22LR from scratch or not that is the question
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coleman1495
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Do not get a heavy barrel. Its just a PITA with a .22lr.
I have only ever had two factory 10/22 rifles. Both of them shot like crap. Despite the standard internet speak about them being accurate they suck.
I am a firm believer in using a Dlask receiver. Its just a lot more solid unit.I would look for a used Dlask Arms 10/22 on the EE and snag that. If there is features that don't suit you change them out as you go. Realistically the only crappy thing is the darn bull barrels.
I have only ever had two factory 10/22 rifles. Both of them shot like crap. Despite the standard internet speak about them being accurate they suck.
I am a firm believer in using a Dlask receiver. Its just a lot more solid unit.I would look for a used Dlask Arms 10/22 on the EE and snag that. If there is features that don't suit you change them out as you go. Realistically the only crappy thing is the darn bull barrels.
Good advice from someone that knows. I have a 10/22 with VQ trigger,extractor,and heavy barrel that shoots greatly better than me. My Rem 597 yellowjacket (heavy barrel and VQ extractor). It too will shoot. That said, in the patch I use a bolt most of the time. My vote is get an accurate bolt, lots of choices, and injoy the shooting.
Cz cz cz best gun for the money. Savages Marlins and anything in between doesn't compare to the cz in terms if quality and feel. Now if you can afford just go buy an Anschutz. I had coopers which are fer nice on the eyes but I still prefer the Anschutz 1710 1712 and the extra affordable 1727 lol...
Marlin 795/60 as hometownhero says above. Save a bunch of money and have a more accurate rifle. $159. at Bass Pro. The Remi 597 mags are crap and only hold 5 rounds reliably. Jam a lot too. Get the Marlin 60 for tube feed and 795 for mag feed. Same gun.
wayupnorth
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as the OP said 10/22 and not a bolt gun or a yucky Marlin or anything else ill keep on topic.
*looks at all the trolls*
you can pick up a stock 10/22 and shoot it stock.
i got my first back in 1984 and growing up on a farm that gun has over 100,000 rounds through it and has killed so many gophers its listed in the War Crimes Museum as a machine of gopher genocide.
and that gun is bone stock.
there is nothing wrong with a stock 10/22 and anyone who tells you different is a Liberal.
ya i said it.
if you WANT to upgrade your 10/22 you can of course at any point do so.
it is not needed but it is fun.
as im known to have...... a few 10/22's in the old gun safe i can maybe offer you some advice.
if you truly want just a gun to plink with and you dont care or want bling than just buy a stock 10/22 and start your gopher harvest.
if you think that at some point you will want a plinker that your friends will say "damn bruh, thats a sweet looking rig!"
then your obviously going to have to do some after market work on it.
so at that point you have 2 roads ahead of you.
you can take the base gun and start to add on.
good thing about this road is you can do as much or as little as you want and start and stop at any point.
bad thing is you are out the initial say $400 for the gun which is kinda a waste.
2nd road is to buy (like you said) a Dlask build or build your own DAR.
ive done all the above and i can say without a word of a lie that my 2 most favorite 10/22's i own are the 2 fully custom ones i built, neither of which has any stock ruger parts on it.
they are top shelf.
whenever i go out with them someone always offers to buy them off me.
women swoon and men cheer.
so you must decide..... the blue pill or the red pill..... errr, i mean stock or custom built rig.
*looks at all the trolls*
you can pick up a stock 10/22 and shoot it stock.
i got my first back in 1984 and growing up on a farm that gun has over 100,000 rounds through it and has killed so many gophers its listed in the War Crimes Museum as a machine of gopher genocide.
and that gun is bone stock.
there is nothing wrong with a stock 10/22 and anyone who tells you different is a Liberal.
ya i said it.
if you WANT to upgrade your 10/22 you can of course at any point do so.
it is not needed but it is fun.
as im known to have...... a few 10/22's in the old gun safe i can maybe offer you some advice.
if you truly want just a gun to plink with and you dont care or want bling than just buy a stock 10/22 and start your gopher harvest.
if you think that at some point you will want a plinker that your friends will say "damn bruh, thats a sweet looking rig!"
then your obviously going to have to do some after market work on it.
so at that point you have 2 roads ahead of you.
you can take the base gun and start to add on.
good thing about this road is you can do as much or as little as you want and start and stop at any point.
bad thing is you are out the initial say $400 for the gun which is kinda a waste.
2nd road is to buy (like you said) a Dlask build or build your own DAR.
ive done all the above and i can say without a word of a lie that my 2 most favorite 10/22's i own are the 2 fully custom ones i built, neither of which has any stock ruger parts on it.
they are top shelf.
whenever i go out with them someone always offers to buy them off me.
women swoon and men cheer.
so you must decide..... the blue pill or the red pill..... errr, i mean stock or custom built rig.
sillymike
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Well, that's kind of a disappointment...
When I read "building a 22lr from scratch"... as was expecting a discussion about the advantage of buying a JSR/Anschutz
Or build one from scratch, with you favourite action/barrel maker/stock maker...
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To the OP, if you have the $$ available now, it's probably cheaper to just buy a rifle from Volquartsen (or the likes).
When I read "building a 22lr from scratch"... as was expecting a discussion about the advantage of buying a JSR/Anschutz
Or build one from scratch, with you favourite action/barrel maker/stock maker...
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To the OP, if you have the $$ available now, it's probably cheaper to just buy a rifle from Volquartsen (or the likes).
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^I agree with these guys, but since it's not really what you asked...I'll add this~if you want to "build" a custom 10/22 for the heck of it, go nuts. There is a good chance that if you spend enough...it might come close to the accuracy of a bolt gun that would cost 1/2 as much. "Might" being the operative word. If that's no big deal, and the build process itself is the draw, then I'd say go for it. If you want an accurate 75 yard shooter out of the box for a fraction of the money, get a Marlin 795 and put an MCARBO kit in for the trigger. Me? I started putting together a dedicated gopher gun about this time last year, and even though I'd owned a 10/22 in the past, owned 2 Marling 795s with nice triggers~the dedicated gopher gun was a CZ452 Varmint 22LR, Yo Dave trigger kit added, Sightron S1 scope. A gopher's worst nightmare out to well over 100 yards when the wind cooperated.
Get a Pietta 50 with a couple of 50 round drums. There are some on sale with 30 round stick mags that would be ok as well. Very accurate rifles and relatively cheap. IMHO a much better design than the Ruger 10-22. All of the Pietta 50s I've seen will digest any ammo fed to them consistently and reliably. Of course, POI will change with different weights of bullets, brands and velocities, just like any other 22rf.
Now, when it comes to building your own rifle from scratch, in you OP you seemed to prefer semi autos.
Building a bolt action 22rf on a custom action won't be any cheaper than building a custom center fire. It can be done and there are kits available for this. Some exceptional single shot falling blocks and I believe Montana Gunworks makes a stainless receiver.
Now, when it comes to building your own rifle from scratch, in you OP you seemed to prefer semi autos.
Building a bolt action 22rf on a custom action won't be any cheaper than building a custom center fire. It can be done and there are kits available for this. Some exceptional single shot falling blocks and I believe Montana Gunworks makes a stainless receiver.
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I already have a .22LR bolt and I'm looking to replace a semi auto. I had one I built but my brother enjoyed it so much he traded me a 30-30 for it.
I'm looking to replace it and trying to decide what I want to do to replace it. I already have a few magazines and I want to stick to a semiauto that will accept the same ruger mags.
So that sort of rules out other manufacturers, not to mention other calibers. I have found a ruger 10-22 with a really nice deluxe wood stock and that's where I am leaning.
My real issue is Ruger continues to ship 10-22's with crappy triggers and barrels so rather than waste 400 bucks on a stock gun then replace a bunch of parts why not just spend a bit more on a Dlask or Volquartsen and be done?
The flip side is just buying a gun isn't nearly as fulfilling as building one bit by bit till someone shoots it one day and goes wow this is a great gun do you want to trade something for it?
I'm looking to replace it and trying to decide what I want to do to replace it. I already have a few magazines and I want to stick to a semiauto that will accept the same ruger mags.
So that sort of rules out other manufacturers, not to mention other calibers. I have found a ruger 10-22 with a really nice deluxe wood stock and that's where I am leaning.
My real issue is Ruger continues to ship 10-22's with crappy triggers and barrels so rather than waste 400 bucks on a stock gun then replace a bunch of parts why not just spend a bit more on a Dlask or Volquartsen and be done?
The flip side is just buying a gun isn't nearly as fulfilling as building one bit by bit till someone shoots it one day and goes wow this is a great gun do you want to trade something for it?
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Kayser Sose
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A), for the win, in my opinion.
You'll have a decent rifle immediately to upgrade as time and cash allows. Someone previously mentioned lurking on the ee until a gun you like appears, but then that'll be bigger money first. 10/22's go for about $400?
Also just to put it out there; the RIA copy of the 10/22 sucks balls, word on the street would have it, thus perhaps leave that one on the gunshop's shelves
You'll have a decent rifle immediately to upgrade as time and cash allows. Someone previously mentioned lurking on the ee until a gun you like appears, but then that'll be bigger money first. 10/22's go for about $400?
Also just to put it out there; the RIA copy of the 10/22 sucks balls, word on the street would have it, thus perhaps leave that one on the gunshop's shelves
Trust me, it is just as fulfilling when it drops critters. Obviously you are ok with spending the cash it needs to keep up with a good bolt rifle. Mind you for that cash you could get one seriously accurate bolt rifle... lol
I'd buy, instantly ready to go. No sourcing parts or uncertainties if it will shoot well or not ect... Just buy a nice ready to go dlask or something...
Only reason I keep poking about the nice bolt gun is because if its main use is hunting. You are going to be laying down suppressive fire on the gopher hord lol.
There would be nothing more frustrating then knowing you did everything perfect and the round still zipped over or beside the critter because you have a semi auto 22
22 is finicky enough as is.
wayupnorth
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1985 through to 1991
my dad would be walking through the pasture with his Cooey Model 83 single shot with its big scope on it.
id be 10 feet to one side or the other with my Ruger 10/22.
id swing up my rifle and take a shot, gopher would run or crawl towards its hole with me blazing away, up, down, left, right, hit, high, hit, hit, left.
my dad would look over and smile, bring his old Cooey up and fire one shot - Keeeerthump!
gopher down.
we would continue one through the field.
i know i was having fun and i know he was having fun, its all a matter of perspective.
my dad would be walking through the pasture with his Cooey Model 83 single shot with its big scope on it.
id be 10 feet to one side or the other with my Ruger 10/22.
id swing up my rifle and take a shot, gopher would run or crawl towards its hole with me blazing away, up, down, left, right, hit, high, hit, hit, left.
my dad would look over and smile, bring his old Cooey up and fire one shot - Keeeerthump!
gopher down.
we would continue one through the field.
i know i was having fun and i know he was having fun, its all a matter of perspective.
