22LR that looks like centerfire handgun options
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GSG 1911 and i think chiappa has a beretta clone in 22.
Here is my GSG side by side with my omega 6 (40sw)
Here is my GSG side by side with my omega 6 (40sw)
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CZ makes their Kadet, Kimber makes a 1911 in .22 and the ISSC rimfire gun looks suspiciously like a Glock. Oh, and Sig has a rimfire gun that is modeled after the P226. And finally another that comes to mind is the Tanfoglio Force 22 that is based on the Force 99 polymer frame 9mm gun.
I've got one of the Force .22 guns and the frame actually is the Force 99 frame. I suppose I should be able to get a second top end if I wanted.
If we get away from semi auto pistols there's lots of revolver matchups. S&W K38/Model 14 and the K22/Model 17. Colt also had a pair of their revolvers that were the same gun in .38Spl and .22. And I suspect that there are others. And there's a few different companies that make rimfire 1873 Single Action Army clones. And the last that comes to mind is Ruger making the Single Six to sit alongside their other adjustable rear sight Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk models.
Oops, almost forgot. Ruger has .22 versions of the LCR and SP101 now as well. Of course we'll never see the LCR models up this way but the SP101 has already sold a few up this way. They'll sell more once they get caught up for production too.
I've got one of the Force .22 guns and the frame actually is the Force 99 frame. I suppose I should be able to get a second top end if I wanted.
If we get away from semi auto pistols there's lots of revolver matchups. S&W K38/Model 14 and the K22/Model 17. Colt also had a pair of their revolvers that were the same gun in .38Spl and .22. And I suspect that there are others. And there's a few different companies that make rimfire 1873 Single Action Army clones. And the last that comes to mind is Ruger making the Single Six to sit alongside their other adjustable rear sight Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk models.
Oops, almost forgot. Ruger has .22 versions of the LCR and SP101 now as well. Of course we'll never see the LCR models up this way but the SP101 has already sold a few up this way. They'll sell more once they get caught up for production too.
I found Chiappa M9-22 that looks like Beretta - $360 from one of the dealers
Checked GSG, looks good. What's the difference between standard and tactical model except for the rail?
Tanfoglio Force 22 is $550 = out of the questions.
Sig Mosquito at $430 looks good
The ISSC does look like Glock, but an ugly one. The safety look is awful. Finally, I cannot find it anywhere in stock. It also seems to be pricey.
CZ Kadet is almost $1000 ouch!
Checked GSG, looks good. What's the difference between standard and tactical model except for the rail?
Tanfoglio Force 22 is $550 = out of the questions.
Sig Mosquito at $430 looks good
The ISSC does look like Glock, but an ugly one. The safety look is awful. Finally, I cannot find it anywhere in stock. It also seems to be pricey.
CZ Kadet is almost $1000 ouch!
Standingtall
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The chiappa is known to be.... how shal I put this....kinda cheap. The gsg is the best bang for your buck, especially since the made the slide durability way better. The sig mosquito is really finicky, and prone to fte's. The m&p 22 is pretty good, but finding mags can be tricky at times.
If you already have a common pistol like a GLOCK or SIG or 1911 or CZ, a .22 conversion kit would be less than $400.
As already suggested, a used .22 revolver like a S&W 17 full size K frame is an excellent value holding investment.
As already suggested, a used .22 revolver like a S&W 17 full size K frame is an excellent value holding investment.
wayupnorth
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ive got a couple 22 pistols and the only advice i can give you is beware of any gun that has a 100% plastic mag!
ive had nothing but trouble with plastic mags and they die so fast its not even funny.
now when i am looking at 22 guns that is the first thing i check for is if they have a metal mag.
or at the very least metal feel lips on the top.
chiappa is the one i know for sure has a plastic mag.
as for your original question, M&P 22 is nice, i have one, love it. The GSG/SIG 1911-22 is real nice, i have one of those and it runs like a dream.
sig misquote's from what i hear have or have had a problem with the slides breaking in half (??)
the ICCS glock knock off is nice but realllllllly small in the hands, and the reviews on it rate it as nasty bad for reliability.
the local gun store up here has had one in stock for like 3 years if that is any indication on how good they are....
ive had nothing but trouble with plastic mags and they die so fast its not even funny.
now when i am looking at 22 guns that is the first thing i check for is if they have a metal mag.
or at the very least metal feel lips on the top.
chiappa is the one i know for sure has a plastic mag.
as for your original question, M&P 22 is nice, i have one, love it. The GSG/SIG 1911-22 is real nice, i have one of those and it runs like a dream.
sig misquote's from what i hear have or have had a problem with the slides breaking in half (??)
the ICCS glock knock off is nice but realllllllly small in the hands, and the reviews on it rate it as nasty bad for reliability.
the local gun store up here has had one in stock for like 3 years if that is any indication on how good they are....
Most of the conversion kits I have had (Glock, Sig, 1911) from various vendors have been less than optimal in reliability.
My wife has a M&P22 that has been great -- she has 7 mags for it, and its been a great training gun.
My wife has a M&P22 that has been great -- she has 7 mags for it, and its been a great training gun.
Exactly what and when did GSG do something to have "made the slide durability way better"????? In my researching the GSG 1911 .22 (which I have recently acquired) I heard some disparaging comments about the slide stop carving up the stop slot in the slide. The slide stop does appear to bounce off the slide stop slot because the plunger pin does not fully retract the stop in a downward position. I'm tempted to file the edge that the plunger rides to put a slightly greater slope on the upper portion but not so much as to interfere with the slide hold-open on empty mag function.
Also, the guide rod is still a weakness so a replacement kit may be a good idea from Blue Line (ZRTactical copy of CWAccessories corrective aftermarket parts). Unfortunately, CWAccessories does not yet ship to Canada and they have a new skeletonized aluminum slide that will be available soon. No doubt ZRTactical will copy that too eventually.
Still, I am looking forward to shooting my GSG 1911 .22 a lot later this year after hunting seasons are over. Looks and feels good except the sights are pretty poor.
Kevin the CZ conversion kit and the Tanfoglio kit are both dead nuts reliable. I let my Tanfoglio go as I had the CZ kit. Super accurate on either a CZ 85 or SP-01 Frame. The bonus is either kt ran the cheapest .22lr ammo you could find. The CZ kit only uses 1/3 of the slide depth to operate the hammer which equates to less slide weight for the recoil to have to move.
I have yet to see a 1911 kit operate with any degree of reliability and the ones that were reasonably reliable required Stingers to operate the slides. Aside from the CZ Kit and the M&P 22 most of the .22 replicas don't appear to be as reliable as a .22 pistol designed as a 22 pistol.
Take Care
Bob
The good revolvers don't come up for sale very often because they are good and we that have them know that and won't part with them. But with some patience one day you'll see one, hold it and if you're wise you'll strike a deal on it and buy it even though you think it's over priced. Unless it is WAYY overpriced you will still be getting good value for the buck because they shoot so well.
Why the insistence on a rimfire gun that looks like a center fire gun? The argument for these as well as the conversions is that it gives us one trigger to learn and one frame to get used to. But if you own or plan on owning a variety of handguns then this argument pretty much flies out the window since you'll need to become acquainted with a variety of triggers and grip styles anyway.
If you have done any searches at all for "accurate and reliable rimfire pistol" the overwhelming reply volume says Ruger MkI, II, and III and the Browning Buckmark. These two gun types did not get to this point by being marginal performers. They are reliable good shooting and long lived guns which you can hand down to your grandkids and they'll still shoot like a champ.
Out of the box I'd give the nod to the Browning for a better feeling stock trigger. But if you like the looks of the Ruger then you can buy drop in parts or modify the internals to achieve as good or better a trigger than the Browning.
Another "unsung hero" that does not seem to get much respect for some odd reason is the S&W 22A. The ones I've shot were more accurate than I by far and were reliable considering that they were rental range guns which see more ammo in a month than private guns see in a year. The same guns in private hands get nothing but reports of approval and success on the S&W message boards.
Why the insistence on a rimfire gun that looks like a center fire gun? The argument for these as well as the conversions is that it gives us one trigger to learn and one frame to get used to. But if you own or plan on owning a variety of handguns then this argument pretty much flies out the window since you'll need to become acquainted with a variety of triggers and grip styles anyway.
If you have done any searches at all for "accurate and reliable rimfire pistol" the overwhelming reply volume says Ruger MkI, II, and III and the Browning Buckmark. These two gun types did not get to this point by being marginal performers. They are reliable good shooting and long lived guns which you can hand down to your grandkids and they'll still shoot like a champ.
Out of the box I'd give the nod to the Browning for a better feeling stock trigger. But if you like the looks of the Ruger then you can buy drop in parts or modify the internals to achieve as good or better a trigger than the Browning.
Another "unsung hero" that does not seem to get much respect for some odd reason is the S&W 22A. The ones I've shot were more accurate than I by far and were reliable considering that they were rental range guns which see more ammo in a month than private guns see in a year. The same guns in private hands get nothing but reports of approval and success on the S&W message boards.
Ar180shooter
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I have a Browning 1911-22 and think it's fantastic. It is slightly scaled down, but is well made, accurate and reliable. It's perfect for women/children and I find it quite usable (I'm 6'1", so not a small guy).
There's also the GSG/Sig 1911/22's, which are full size and weight.
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There's also the GSG/Sig 1911/22's, which are full size and weight.
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CWAccessories have just put their skeletonized slides prices on their web page. Not available in Canada (yet ?) but made from aluminum, intro cost about $190 US. Pricey but if the OEM stock wears or breaks after warranty period, it would be a consideration.
Ar180shooter
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They're around $500-$550 new. I got mine off another CGNer though. I first handled them at a local gun shop here in Ottawa, but they sold out before I had the money to buy one, so I had to find one used.
