.22LR vs .22WMR

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40 grain Winchester .22 WMR (FMJ) out of a Taurus revolver with 2" barrel.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/index_files/Page1455.htm
 
Polar Man said:
Not too shabby. Rimfire has a lot more penetration then people realize, I would have liked to see a .22lr for comparison with it.
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I don't think he has done a .22lr pistol geltest just yet, but I'm pretty sure he did a .25 ACP test (which is pretty damn close).
 
Taking NWO's numbers, shooting 100 rounds a week costs ~$1500/year for the wmr vs. ~200 for the LR. That difference the cost of a good 223+good scope for the longer range fun.

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manbearpig said:
i never really saw the point of the .22 WMR.

the main advantage of the .22 LR is that it is dirt cheap to shoot, has a huge ammo selection (especially in a bolt action - which is what i would highly recommend for a first gun), and is quiet (with CBs in a long barrel the only noise i hear is the mechanical noise of the gun and the thwack of the bullet hitting the target).

none of these advantages exist in the .22 WMR. if i want more power than a .22 LR, such as for hunting yotes or larger varmints, ill step up to my .223.

you cant go wrong with a bolt action .22 as your first gun.
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Alot more recoil in a .223, versus a .22wmr. My 22's are also the only guns I use with just foamy ear plugs. I find that alot more convenient for small-game hunting.

All relatively, of course. :D
 
...gotta put my 2 cents in...
"Not having a clue doesn't mean I don't have an opinion"

Personally .22Lr ALL THE WAY:
- Cheap to shoot. Not even in the same ballfields there...
-Lethal? Anything I would be "comfy" [and legal] shooting with a Magnum, I'd be as comfy with the Lr. For me and, my area(scrubby 'ol Ontario). I don't have prairie dogs available at 200+ yds. I do go for Grouse and, vermin but, nice n' close. Again, local topography doesn't allow for much of that sort of game to be very far away and still be seen.
- My ears are much happier after a day of Lr. shooting too.
-Fun?...Too much fun. The challenges for a novice shooter (like .22 shooting at 100+ yds*) are the actual nuances of real riflery that, will carry the hobbiest through years and, years of shooting refinement.

In fact, the ONLY aspect of shootery I see lacking is that you won't do any hand-loading...for either. I beleive thats a facet of shooting with enough "science vs. art" to keep any hobbiest avid.

Honestly, can there be any more fun than 333 rounds for 13.00$'s? It's almost as cheap as the paper targets!

*Grantmac...pointed out the "fun with physics" that become apparant here...As the 'ol ball drops down through sonic, it gets wobbly, those that never hit sonic stay true 'til gravity takes them home. Has anyone ever seen sub-sonics for a magnum? I haven't...
 
As an all-around plinking/target rifle, absolutely get a .22LR. I use a scoped 9422M .22WMR as my primary close-range pest control rifle around the farm (raccoons/beavers/groundhogs/cats dropped off by city folk/porcupines). All of these are do-able with a .22LR, but the .22WMR is a hell of a lot more effective for just a small increase in noise. So, as a hunting cartridge the .22WMR wins hands down, but it is way too expensive to feed as a plinker/paper puncher. I don't get the .17HMR for anything other than ground squirrels. If I have to reach out past 125 yds to nail something bigger than a squirrel, I'll grab my .223. With reloads it is cheaper to feed than the current price of HMR ammo, and it definitely outperforms it.
 
camster said:
...gotta put my 2 cents in...
"Not having a clue doesn't mean I don't have an opinion"

Personally .22Lr ALL THE WAY:
- Cheap to shoot. Not even in the same ballfields there...
-Lethal? Anything I would be "comfy" [and legal] shooting with a Magnum, I'd be as comfy with the Lr. For me and, my area(scrubby 'ol Ontario). I don't have prairie dogs available at 200+ yds. I do go for Grouse and, vermin but, nice n' close. Again, local topography doesn't allow for much of that sort of game to be very far away and still be seen.
- My ears are much happier after a day of Lr. shooting too.
-Fun?...Too much fun. The challenges for a novice shooter (like .22 shooting at 100+ yds*) are the actual nuances of real riflery that, will carry the hobbiest through years and, years of shooting refinement.

In fact, the ONLY aspect of shootery I see lacking is that you won't do any hand-loading...for either. I beleive thats a facet of shooting with enough "science vs. art" to keep any hobbiest avid.

Honestly, can there be any more fun than 333 rounds for 13.00$'s? It's almost as cheap as the paper targets!

*Grantmac...pointed out the "fun with physics" that become apparant here...As the 'ol ball drops down through sonic, it gets wobbly, those that never hit sonic stay true 'til gravity takes them home. Has anyone ever seen sub-sonics for a magnum? I haven't...
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http://www.gun-tests.com/performance/apr96reloading.html

:cheers:
 
Ophiophage said:
Hi everyone, first-time poster looking for some advice on my first rimfire purchase. My PAL application's status has just started showing up on the CFC website, so I'm getting a bit more serious in my shopping around/planning. Basically, I'm planning mostly to just punch paper at the range, and both local ranges go out to 100 yards with one going to 200. I was thinking of something in .22LR at first, but after going out shooting with my cousin I was a little off-put by having a 8-10" holdover at the 100 yard line. If I went for .22WMR instead, would that make a lot of difference at 100-200 yard ranges? Most comparisons of the two that I could find online dealt more with their uses on varmints and not so much on the differences in effective range. The cost of ammo isn't that big an issue as I'm not going to be able to go shooting a whole lot, being a student, but I am a bit restricted in my budget for a gun(so far my eye's been on a Marlin 925M). Any other advice for a relative newbie is also appreciated.
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If the cost of ammo is no biggie, then if I were you and wanted a rifle that was some what accurate I would look at a 17 HMR, blows 22 mag away at the range. FS
 
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