i know 22lr but i have a 338lm and 300 win mag and it costs me a bit much to run them and i was wondering how many people if any shoot 22lr and long rang ie 150+ meters as a cheap way to practice and where would one find the bc of 22 ammo so I can put it in my drop chart
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BigUglyMan
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Um, have you looked at your typical 40 gr 22LR bullet? Not exactly pointy like ballistic tip.
I've got an Anschutz 54 that shoots 1/2 MOA at 100 yards all day as long as it's not too windy and I do my part. Any shooting is good practice, but there's little translation between 100 yards with a 22LR and 600 with a 223 or 800 with a 308. That's why you buy all three!
I've got an Anschutz 54 that shoots 1/2 MOA at 100 yards all day as long as it's not too windy and I do my part. Any shooting is good practice, but there's little translation between 100 yards with a 22LR and 600 with a 223 or 800 with a 308. That's why you buy all three!
Mystic Precision
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Quite a number of shooters are using the 22LR as a practise rifle for LR shooting. At 100 to 150yds, it will give you good practise for doping winds for the 223/308 at LR.
Is it an exact clone? Well you can make it so by adjusting the distance based on your accuracy and drift results.
I think shooting a rimfire at 75yds might be a good simulation of high BC cals for LR practise.
Cost is a huge deterent for many shooters to practise. So is the length of the range. Any practise is a good thing and a rimfire makes a very affordable alternative.
I think the CZ Varminter is an ideal F class practise rig. There are of course hordes of older bolt action rifle almost given away at gunshows so the choices are pretty much limitedless. I would search for an older BRUNO No4 or CIL/Anschutz or Rem. Put into a stock that mimics your centerfire and have at it.
Just remember to scale both your optics and target. Next spring I will be using my rebarreled 10/22 to do this very thing. I am thinking that 100yds would be a good simulation of my 6.5 at 500 to 700yds. 50m would be good 300yds simulation. Will just have to muck about till I find a good match.
When I was doing alot of silhouette shooting, launching a few hundred rds per practise session was a given. Try doing that at 80cents to $1.50 per bang.
Jerry
Is it an exact clone? Well you can make it so by adjusting the distance based on your accuracy and drift results.
I think shooting a rimfire at 75yds might be a good simulation of high BC cals for LR practise.
Cost is a huge deterent for many shooters to practise. So is the length of the range. Any practise is a good thing and a rimfire makes a very affordable alternative.
I think the CZ Varminter is an ideal F class practise rig. There are of course hordes of older bolt action rifle almost given away at gunshows so the choices are pretty much limitedless. I would search for an older BRUNO No4 or CIL/Anschutz or Rem. Put into a stock that mimics your centerfire and have at it.
Just remember to scale both your optics and target. Next spring I will be using my rebarreled 10/22 to do this very thing. I am thinking that 100yds would be a good simulation of my 6.5 at 500 to 700yds. 50m would be good 300yds simulation. Will just have to muck about till I find a good match.
When I was doing alot of silhouette shooting, launching a few hundred rds per practise session was a given. Try doing that at 80cents to $1.50 per bang.
Jerry
I am with Mystic on this one. I bought a Brno #4 and it is my training rifle for my 308. As a I recall the 22lr has the same wind characteristics at 200 yrds as the 308 at 1000 based on 10mph full value wind.
Some things I have found
Try to use the same scope or magnification on both rifles.
Try all brands and lots of 22 ammo. Even if that means buying the more pricey stuff like eley or lapua. Once you find one that shoot by as much of the same lot as you can get your hands on. There is nothing more irritating then shooting a lower quality ammo and hearing the round go supersonic and seeing it print 1 inch plus higher then your current grouping. In most cases vertical strings are the ammo and horizontal is your wind reading ability
Bolt action will generally be more accurate then a semi.
Set both rifle's trigger to the same pull weight.
practice as if you were in competition.
Some things I have found
Try to use the same scope or magnification on both rifles.
Try all brands and lots of 22 ammo. Even if that means buying the more pricey stuff like eley or lapua. Once you find one that shoot by as much of the same lot as you can get your hands on. There is nothing more irritating then shooting a lower quality ammo and hearing the round go supersonic and seeing it print 1 inch plus higher then your current grouping. In most cases vertical strings are the ammo and horizontal is your wind reading ability
Bolt action will generally be more accurate then a semi.
Set both rifle's trigger to the same pull weight.
practice as if you were in competition.
"...it costs me a bit much..." You reloading? Doesn't help much cost wise, but it's less expensive than factory. Plan 'B' would be another of the same rifle with the same sights, but chambered in a less expensive cartridge. A .223 or other varmint calibre will do nicely. not exactly the least expensive way to go though.
"...150+ meters..." Too far for most .22's. Any wind will blow those little bullets all over creation. However, sight picture, trigger control and breathing is the same no matter what the calibre.
"...buying the more pricey stuff like eley or lapua..." Gives you no gurarantee that whatever .22 you have will shoot it well. Trying as many brands of ammo as possible is essential with a .22 though. The price of said ammo doesn't matter.
"...150+ meters..." Too far for most .22's. Any wind will blow those little bullets all over creation. However, sight picture, trigger control and breathing is the same no matter what the calibre.
"...buying the more pricey stuff like eley or lapua..." Gives you no gurarantee that whatever .22 you have will shoot it well. Trying as many brands of ammo as possible is essential with a .22 though. The price of said ammo doesn't matter.
Brutus
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Much of you said was true, but I have to disagree on this point:
I have tried a fair amount of different 22 LR ammo in my ES350b German Mauser. And the most accurate ammo to date I used in it was Eley Tenex Match.
The difference at 100 yards was about 1 MOA, with Remington brand of sub-sonis ammo, to easily .5 MOA with no wind using the Eley Match. From a bench rest of course.
Yes it is pricey, but for a good reason though.
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