243 win 75gr vmax

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I did up some test loads for my sons Tikka T3 243 win with Hornady 75gr Vmax and H380 powder. Started at 41gr working up in half grain increments to 44.5gr. At the max load the primer was starting to flatten. I backed off to 42 and 43gr and loaded up some for groups. The 43gr grouped a little better than the 42gr so I loaded up 5 more and ran them across my magnetospeed. I was surprised to see they only averaged 3190fps.

Just wondering what you guys are using with the 75gr Vmax that gives a little better velocity.
 
Try some H414/W760 or Varget.

I think you will find you can minimally get another 100 fps and upwards of 200.
 
Why would a 75 Vmax be any different than say a 75 grain Sierra HP?
46 grains of H414 and a 75 grain Sierra HP gave me great accuracy in my Marlin bolt 243 and averaged 3491 fps.
 
If I could get 3400 With no pressure I would be more than happy.

Well, that can't be done, because pressure drives the bullet and pressure is directly related to velocity.
What you mean is you would like that velocity without excess pressure. And that is exactly what my loads are.
I often do load to higher pressure than shown in the modern loading books, but in this case, a 75 Grain Hdy HP is shown in the Hodgdon on line charts as exactly my load---46 grains of H414 for a velocity of 3447, but the same load chronographed at 3491 in my rifle.
The flattening of primers is an almost useless means of judging pressures.
When I am working up to see what is a maximum load in my rifle, I keep adding powder until there is a bit of stiffness when raising the bolt handle. I then drop down a grain and try a few. If I can feel no extra pressure in raising the bolt handle, that is my load.
Bruce
 
Yup that's what I meant. I usually go up in half grain increments inspecting the brass and checking the brass for case head expansion. When I get .0005" expansion I'm usually at max pressure and back off at least one grain.
 
Trying different loads is fine... but don't be a slave to the chronograph... the primary goal is to put them where you are aiming... The difference on target (yote or paper) between 3100 and 3400 is negligible.
 
Yes.... but why buy a hotrod if your not going to burn a little rubber? That 'animals won't know the difference' argument doesn't apply to a true gunnut.
 
Want to burn with a 75 gr Vmax buy a 257 wby. My 25/06 spits them at 3550 fps with 49 grs of varget and when I loaded for a friend's rifle in 243 we hit 3425 fps with varget. I can't remember the grs. His gun didn't like it. Switched to a different powder and ended up with a very accurate load at around 3300 fps
The vmax is the great bullet even with impacts down to 1800 fps. Most likely even slower if shooting coyotes and smaller animals
 
Trying different loads is fine... but don't be a slave to the chronograph... the primary goal is to put them where you are aiming... The difference on target (yote or paper) between 3100 and 3400 is negligible.

For a hundred plus years its been known that well bedded and tuned rifles, shoot best with full loaded ammunition.
Until recent years there have been a great number of rifle shooting matches between different military groups and law enforcement groups, such as the US Border Patrol versus the Texas Rangers, as an example.
In every case, each side would be using special match ammunition and all of this ammunition would be loaded to higher velocity than the standard ammunition their rifles used.
World class bench rest and long range shooters learned long ago to use ammunition that is loaded heavier than standard ammunition.
Warren Page may have been the greatest rifleman, ever. In his book, The Accurate Rifle, on page 152 he talks about loading the magnums, like the 7mm Remington, 300 Win and similar types, for long range shooting. He states loading can be explained with one word- Full. Then he states, "Standard practice is to load powders like Du Pont #4350, or H4831, or Norma 205 in the heaviest charges the individual rifle will handle behind the bullet used,---"
He also states the one word, full, is the way to explain loading for the 308 Winchester, even for 100 yard bench rest shooting.
Thus, it is not by accident that my rifles, which are always well bedded, shoot best with full power loaded ammunition.
 
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