25 and 32 calibre
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peckerwood
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Cause they said so... :?
this is what other have said that our great govt wanted alot of guns off the street one one big grab and it seem that 25 and 32 was the choice so they said that most of the guns in this cal were what the people were using on the street :roll: and said that guns in these cal where crap and you couldnt hit the Barn door with them :shock: . But then they had to pull there foot out of there mouth when they found out that our Canadian shooting team shoot with 32cal ( i guess there shooting targets biger then a barn door ) so not all 32cal are banned you have to check on the cfo site and they have a list
I guess it is also because many 32 and 25 cal handguns are smaller pocket pistols which we all know are evil and can be used to shoot down flying 747's and penetrate 15 layers of kevlar. :roll:
Any gun ban based on caliber misses the point, imho. :roll:
Any gun ban based on caliber misses the point, imho. :roll:
peckerwood
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Would this thing even break the skin or would it just be useful at pissing off an attacker?
:lol:
And just for the scale of it:
The 2.7mm Kolibri and it's cartridge next to a 45ACP cartridge
peckerwood
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Good luck finding one...the last sample I have heard of sold in the US for around 6000usd.
I am also unsure of what the ballistic properties are of the Kolibri cartridges, so I have no idea how fast they go or how many ft/lbs they carry(can't be much more than a pellet gun IMO)
Plus, they were manufactured right up until the 1930s so they might be prohib, they might not, as I am not all that aware of what constitutes a 12(6) in this case
I am also unsure of what the ballistic properties are of the Kolibri cartridges, so I have no idea how fast they go or how many ft/lbs they carry(can't be much more than a pellet gun IMO)
Plus, they were manufactured right up until the 1930s so they might be prohib, they might not, as I am not all that aware of what constitutes a 12(6) in this case
Just looked this cartridge up in "Cartridges of the World", and they rate it at 3 foot-pounds; converted, that works out to 4.0674 Joules (and therefore, a non-registerable firearm), assuming you could get either the pistol or ammo in the first place.
peckerwood
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SDC said:
Therefore, the most expensive pellet gun I have ever seen...and the cutest :lol:
Exactly. If I ever got one, I would never fire it. I saw a 2.7mm shell casing from one of these on sale for $800 USD. :shock:
It's just one of those conversation pieces that would just be so cool to own...
It's just one of those conversation pieces that would just be so cool to own...
peckerwood
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The man in my Avatar is my Grandfather on my step family side.: Lt. John James Mackie, Loyal Edmonton Regiment, PPCLI. WW2 Veteran
The picture was taken just a few days before Juno beach and he was made privvy to the operation...hence the solemn look on his face. Every other picture I have of my grandfather he has a smile on...but that one.
That picture says it all to me.
Before his passing in October 2000 he had been to my sister's b-day and even though he could barely stand upright and was in tremendous pain, stuck on an oxygen tank, etc. he still managed some of the most wonderful smiles I have ever seen...a real man in my opinion. Even to his last days he would not show his pain or share his suffering with anyone as I am sure he felt that he had been through much worse already, and didn't want to burden others with his own tribulations.
Everytime I saw him he would say the words "ticketyboo" with a big smile on his face, and for the longest time I thought he was nuts, as I had no idea what the words meant. only 8 years ago did I ever learn of their meaning...Ticketyboo back in the old days meant "Everything is OK...everything is ticketyboo". Now I know.
On top of that, all of my Liberty leanings come from his tuition... his desire not to be directed, or coerced...and his guidance to show me the same desire for independance and Liberty. He also refused to pay Income tax as he somehow felt betrayed by his government. Many times he would mention that of representation instead of governance.
He used to call the people "shareholders of the Nation"...not sure where he got it from but even I use it from time to time.
He used to tell me the three things that make a man a warrior:
1)Honour: that a man would speak his true meaning and always live up to his word.
2)Compassion: that for one to be on a path isn't enough, instead that a man should choose the right path that best serves those in need.
3)Perserverence: that if a man so findeth himself on the right path, there be no reason nor obstacle great enough to make him quit.
Nobody else in my family would speak like this...but as of recent I felt maybe one of us should :wink: . Happily other members of my family are beginning to come around and speak the same words so that we might all be on the same page.
I miss my Grandfather very much and I guess I always will
but if I am to honour him in anyway, it will be to live in his example and pass on his wisdom to others.
The picture was taken just a few days before Juno beach and he was made privvy to the operation...hence the solemn look on his face. Every other picture I have of my grandfather he has a smile on...but that one.
That picture says it all to me.
Before his passing in October 2000 he had been to my sister's b-day and even though he could barely stand upright and was in tremendous pain, stuck on an oxygen tank, etc. he still managed some of the most wonderful smiles I have ever seen...a real man in my opinion. Even to his last days he would not show his pain or share his suffering with anyone as I am sure he felt that he had been through much worse already, and didn't want to burden others with his own tribulations.
Everytime I saw him he would say the words "ticketyboo" with a big smile on his face, and for the longest time I thought he was nuts, as I had no idea what the words meant. only 8 years ago did I ever learn of their meaning...Ticketyboo back in the old days meant "Everything is OK...everything is ticketyboo". Now I know.
On top of that, all of my Liberty leanings come from his tuition... his desire not to be directed, or coerced...and his guidance to show me the same desire for independance and Liberty. He also refused to pay Income tax as he somehow felt betrayed by his government. Many times he would mention that of representation instead of governance.
He used to call the people "shareholders of the Nation"...not sure where he got it from but even I use it from time to time.
He used to tell me the three things that make a man a warrior:
1)Honour: that a man would speak his true meaning and always live up to his word.
2)Compassion: that for one to be on a path isn't enough, instead that a man should choose the right path that best serves those in need.
3)Perserverence: that if a man so findeth himself on the right path, there be no reason nor obstacle great enough to make him quit.
Nobody else in my family would speak like this...but as of recent I felt maybe one of us should :wink: . Happily other members of my family are beginning to come around and speak the same words so that we might all be on the same page.
I miss my Grandfather very much and I guess I always will
but if I am to honour him in anyway, it will be to live in his example and pass on his wisdom to others.
peckerwood
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- PalePony, Yukon
No prob...happy to share.
As for the Kolibri, I too would love to see one and handle one...but alas, cash is a far away object for me...especially that much spare cash :shock:
6000usd could pay my rent for almost three years.
As for the Kolibri, I too would love to see one and handle one...but alas, cash is a far away object for me...especially that much spare cash :shock:
6000usd could pay my rent for almost three years.
JB is correct in mentioning that .32 cal. pistols are part of the National Handgun Team shooting program and also that Ottawa had to rescind the prohibited status with regards to .32 cal.Centre Fire competition. Note that only competition pistols in .32 cal. were exempted. Not your S&W Model 30 hand ejector and similar revolvers or semi-autos..Centre Fire consists of 30rds. Slow Fire at 25 metres, and 30 rds. of Rapid Fire also at 25 metres. Most popular are the Walther GSPs and the Hämmerli 280s. They are precision competition pistols and by their very nature costly. Centre Fire events are not part of the Olympic program, but are part of all Continental and World Championships. There are no events for pistols in .25 caliber.
If they banned the .25 and .32 cal handguns based on concealability of the firearms they are chambered in, then why do we also have a 105mm min barrel length law? You would think the same would be accomplished with just the barrel length law..........
This was actually part of the "trophy" that the LIEberals wanted to give to wailin' Wendy and the CFGC; they decided that a suitable political gesture would be to prohibit somewhere around half of all legally-owned handguns, and since the existing handgun registry let them search by calibre and barrel length, that's what it came down to. Since they could claim that anything .25/.32/<106mm is also a "Saturday Night Special", that's how they sold it.
