I grabbed a brand new butler creek (i think?) clear 25 round mag on the way out to the bush today and the damn thing won't feed at all. It jammed and wouldn't load. Like, shot maybe 5 rounds out of the 50 we tried in it. When it was put in and the action is pulled back and than let go, it get's stock and won't load them in properly. Switched back to the stock 10 round mag and had zero jams in 400+ rounds with the same ammo. Are these things garbage or did I get a dud?
25 round mag for 10/22 won't feed.
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yah it's weird. grabbed a new 10/22 and a box of federal ammo and had zero problems through the whole box. stopped on the way out today to grab something with more capacity and it just doesn't work. it's not like it's jamming here or there either, it's pretty much useless.
The 10 round rotery mag is fine, it's a great little mag! You have to understand aswell, it's rimfire ammo. Rimfire ammo is made on a 1,000 lot press at a time (or more). The cheap ammo doesn't have the quality CCI does.
Some people don't have any problems at all with cheap ammo, lucky them. If I clean my 10/22 and oil it well, it doesn't do to bad with the cheap stuff. I more or less let the wife deal with it - afterall she's the only one that shoots it.
Word to the wise, stay away from RAM LINE magazines. They are junk, they split down the seem after a few trips to the range. Butler Creek = good.
Some people don't have any problems at all with cheap ammo, lucky them. If I clean my 10/22 and oil it well, it doesn't do to bad with the cheap stuff. I more or less let the wife deal with it - afterall she's the only one that shoots it.
Word to the wise, stay away from RAM LINE magazines. They are junk, they split down the seem after a few trips to the range. Butler Creek = good.
Here's the deal. There are two potential issues:
1) The springs in the mags sometimes take a while to break in, and if you fully load them, they will be too tight, and they will not push the next round up fast enough to be loaded into the chamber (the bolt closes before the round gets up to be taken). If it is just a little slow, the bullet will get jammed into the action. If its really slow it will close completely with no round picked up for chambering. The solution to this problem is to break the mags in by loading them with less than a full load at first. I'd use 10 rounds, then 15, then 20, then full loads. It takes a while.
2) The second possible problem is that your feed lips do not correspond to the reciever. This happens with both the plastic hotlips mags and the steel lips mags. You can usually see a little bit of wearing on it when fired. You can file them slightly to get a right fit.
1) The springs in the mags sometimes take a while to break in, and if you fully load them, they will be too tight, and they will not push the next round up fast enough to be loaded into the chamber (the bolt closes before the round gets up to be taken). If it is just a little slow, the bullet will get jammed into the action. If its really slow it will close completely with no round picked up for chambering. The solution to this problem is to break the mags in by loading them with less than a full load at first. I'd use 10 rounds, then 15, then 20, then full loads. It takes a while.
2) The second possible problem is that your feed lips do not correspond to the reciever. This happens with both the plastic hotlips mags and the steel lips mags. You can usually see a little bit of wearing on it when fired. You can file them slightly to get a right fit.
I recently picked up 2 steel-lips mags and one works great with no feeding issues and one that would get hung up after 7 rounds were put in.
I am now up to 15 rounds so I guess the break in thing is true. I tried to move this process along by loading 10 snap cap rounds and then using a screwdriver to push the dummy ammo down into the magazine well. To me it seems the follower is just a bit too tight at a certain spot in the mag. I can pull the screwdriver out much faster than the ammo can return to the top of the mag. Sometimes it just stays bottomed out. I have to rap the side of the mag to get the follower to return. Definately a pain in the ass, but if it will eventually work like the other one..... worth the hastle.
I am now up to 15 rounds so I guess the break in thing is true. I tried to move this process along by loading 10 snap cap rounds and then using a screwdriver to push the dummy ammo down into the magazine well. To me it seems the follower is just a bit too tight at a certain spot in the mag. I can pull the screwdriver out much faster than the ammo can return to the top of the mag. Sometimes it just stays bottomed out. I have to rap the side of the mag to get the follower to return. Definately a pain in the ass, but if it will eventually work like the other one..... worth the hastle.
it also depends on the gun- i have 2 10/22s- one dead stock and the other a folder i picked up second hand - the dead stock one will only feed off the rotary- the folder will feed anything in the trough,including empties for testing- and i've seen where mags work better after a "break in " period- ie a brick or 2 through them- p/s mine aren't butler , but eagle if that makes a diff
Same here. Once used for a while it functions 100%.
Totally sounds like the ammo you were using.
My 10/22 will eat Remington thunderbolts and cyclones and other round nosed bullets all day from a butler creek mag.
But you try to feed it with Winchester super X hollow-points or other truncated cone bullets it sh!ts the bed in a big new way. Bang, bang, jam. Bang, bang, jam. Bang, jam, jam, and so forth.
My 10/22 will eat Remington thunderbolts and cyclones and other round nosed bullets all day from a butler creek mag.
But you try to feed it with Winchester super X hollow-points or other truncated cone bullets it sh!ts the bed in a big new way. Bang, bang, jam. Bang, bang, jam. Bang, jam, jam, and so forth.
Ive ran 16-17 different kinds of ammo through my guns... its a mag issue that will work itself out, or it did for Grizzly and I...
Im surprised that the Remington ammo works best for you, that ammo has crapped the bed for me. And it really really runs dirty...
Im surprised that the Remington ammo works best for you, that ammo has crapped the bed for me. And it really really runs dirty...
Ok thanks. Ill try breaking it in next time and see if I can get the federal stuff shooting through it. If not, ill try the cci mini mags. I had both but only brought out the federals as I knew that when we got the rifle, it was working flawlessly with them.
Also, the biggest issue is when I load the mag in and let go of the action, it won't load the round. It just slams on it and stays open.
This is the all plastic clear ones. Would I have been better off grabbing the black one that, I think, had metal components
This is the all plastic clear ones. Would I have been better off grabbing the black one that, I think, had metal components
