250 savage

The 25 Souper is a great wlidcat .308 parent case.Human nature is get the latest/ fastest.Re-inventing the wheel with introduction of the .243 while the 6mm Rem failed and it was a better round.Better advertising won out like eating at Mac Donalds .I'll pass on both Rotten Ronnie's and the .243..................JMO..........Harold FL 22-250 brass and load done deal .250-3000
 
416ON said:
Ruger chambered a bunch of M77 full stock rifles in 250 savage. Sweet looking little rifle IMHO.
Last I looked there were still a few available here in Canada. Here's a pic I 'stole' from another thread. ;) I really like this round; almost no recoil or muzzle blast. Less noisy than a .243 and larger caliber bullets.

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I was fortunate enough to get one of these Ruger Internationals. It is a beautiful handling rifle, even a decent trigger from the factory. I had some old Win ammo for it so that is what I have shot out of mine so far. The recoil is so mild, its just a joy to shoot. FS
 
senior said:
The average 243 shoots 100s at 3000fps while the average 250 shoots them at 2900, a game animal will never tell the difference. You numbers were from an add in the 19teens, powders have come a long way in the last 90yrs, mostly to the benifit of smaller capacity cases.
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A real eye-opener is to chronograph both factory loads. The 100 gr 243 is closer to 2800 fps, and and 250-3000 almost the same. :D

Ted
 
I'm sure I'm well over 2800 fps with 41 gr of Win 760/100gr bullet and a 24 " pipe. .... Most deer just vanish out of the line of sight upon pulling the trigger.Great trainer for the kids.The boys have all shot several WT and mulies with mine.One WT buck at 300 yards last fall.DOA.......Harold
 
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Harold, you know I,m in love with the 250 Savage ever since I got my first ram with it. Mine is a Ruger U.L. and I have hand loaded for it for over 25 years but 100gr bullets never quite reach the 2800 fps over the chrony, granted the barrel length must influence these results. But barrel length dosen't influence the trophy room or the deepfreeze. If I had bought a 243 back then I supose I would have sold it off soon after. There!! that ought to stir up some poop in the 243 camp. Regards David.
 
Count me in amongst the .250 fan club. My 99A has been a great hunting rifle that performs far better than it should. A chronograph could never do it justice and I try not to measure these older rounds that way.

Like my favorite 6.5 Swede and .300 H&H, the little .250 just has class and provides excellent results in the real world.

Mr. Henry,

Nice to see you here. I was looking for your website recently with no luck. Do you still operate it? I understand that you are very busy in the shop these days.

Regards.
 
Ha ha Ha David henry,
You forgot to mention WHY you would have sold your .243 soon after.
Now remember, logic and rational answer only.
None of this poop stirring just to create stink eh!
 
Mbogo is right.
The 25 Souper is super indeed.
Rather then the faddish short short magnum, Winchester should have adopted the .25 souper.
 
Greatest discrepancy I saw was with Imperial IVI, 100 grain in 243.
Five averaged 2540! High was 2602 and loow was 2473, a 125 spread.
Without even moving from the bench, I took five of my 100 grain Sierra and shot them over the Oelher.
They averaged 3069, with a high to low spread of 43.
This was from the 22 inch barrel of my Ruger 77.
I have no doubt that with a good bolt action 250, a mighty fine load could be made. Like someone said, no game animal would know the difference.
Damn, if only my 243 had been as ###y as the 250!
 
mbogo3 said:
Well 12% greater bullet diameter for one.I have a Rem 700 Classic that will penetrate an AB WT broadside rib shot at 300 yards.Also shot a lrg Mulie buck that was over 300lbs.I'm shooting 41gr Win 760/Win brass/Fed mag primers/100gr Sierras.Don't use this load in any lever action as it will be an overload.I get no preasure signs and 3 shot groups one hole at 100 yards...............If they made ammo and guns for the .250 more available at the time there would be no .243 Harold ******the .250 has doing the same job since 1920.What they needed was a 1-10 twist to start with like Newton wanted!
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Math was not your gift. .244 to .257 is not a 12% greater bullet diameter. It is in fact a 5.328% increase...a 12% increase over a .244 would be .27328.
 
And manners are not your's.....write to John Barness it's from one of his articles on the .250 I didn't have a calculator on me this AM just the Handloader magazine .But I do have 45 years of hunting experience to fall back on.The Imperial ammo was very bad in later years and 2-3 grain differences in the same box of ammo wasn't unheard of.I picked up a Savage 99 EG in nice shape along with a box of Imperial 100gr KKSP [RN] and they shot patterns.Talked to a local smith and he mentioned the ammo.I pulled the remaining bullets tossed the powder and put 30gr of IMR 3031 in their place.3/4" 3 shot groups at 100 yards! Bad ammo......the 1-14" twist will shoot the old 100gr RN but mine won't shoot the pointy 100 gr stuff.Speer makes the shortest 100gr bullet and they also work with the older twist..............Harold
 
That's pretty much my experience mbogo3. Neither my 99 savs & my Tang Ruger like 100s very much, they will do decent hunting accuracy with them but really shine when you throw 86gn Sierra's at them.

Regarding you guys with Tang Rugers, how do you tell an early Lightweight from a reg M-77 Tang?? Mine has a very slim barrel but seems regular in every other way. Could it be a Lightweight?
 
250

Ruger introduced the 250 Savage in 1974 first in the flat bolt, non barrel warning and then standardized in the 77R 24" BBL and apparently there are some RS models out there dating from this period as well. Later reintroduced in the models we are more familiar with 77 ultralight and the 77 RSI. These are all tang safty models as I have yet to see one in the new 77mk2 action. However it looks like they may be doing a run of stainless RSI's according to a previous post. David.
 
David Henry said:
Ruger introduced the 250 Savage in 1974 first in the flat bolt, non barrel warning and then standardized in the 77R 24" BBL and apparently there are some RS models out there dating from this period as well. Later reintroduced in the models we are more familiar with 77 ultralight and the 77 RSI. These are all tang safty models as I have yet to see one in the new 77mk2 action. However it looks like they may be doing a run of stainless RSI's according to a previous post. David.
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The 'run' they did was a year or so ago was a Lipsys' special of 250 rifles. We sold quite a few and we have one left in stock.
 
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