257 Roberts for grizzly?
- Thread starter Gatehouse
- Start date
- Location
- Hillbilly shack in the boonies
Not I , but I did take a Black bear @ 10 meters with a longbow, and cedar arrow, from the ground, with air between it and me. I made a noise when drawing back the string , and it looked right over at me before I let loose. That was pretty hard on the old ticker
Frank
- Location
- St. Joe's Island, Ont
Why not? said:I am somewhat amused and also curious. How many of those who have been critical of the caliber used on this hunt by this lady, have actually ever shot a grizzly bear?
Ted
Nice point.
I had a BLR in 257 Roberts and because I've got larger calibers than it I can honestly say it wouldn't be the gun I'd take out into the field after Grizz but to each their own, it's their lives they're playing with, not mine.
I'm actually kinda surprised none of you guys have turned this into a flame fest, your getting better.
I agree with the "bullet" part of that statement only. I think it's important to use a bulet that will hold together and penetrate without coming apart on bones etc.
What would be the proper cartridge choice for a grizzly, then? When everythign goes wrong with a bear, a locomotive won't stop them.
And what is the point of choosing a cartridge that you cannot handle, either? Choosing a cartridge that is too much for you to hande is a sure way to make things *go wrong*
Placement + projectile performance wins out over big ass bullet that you cannot place correctly, every time.
Ltbull01 said:How is that relevant?
It is very relevant. If you haven't shot a grizzly, or several, then you don't really have a right to be critical. Well maybe you have a right to be, but you also have a right to be tooled when someone goes ahead and demonstrates what can be done with the right bullet and good shot placement.
1899 said:
Of course I can be told that right placement, right round, etc., and I can also paint my body blue and go after a boar with a fire-hardened stake!
Every once in a while, a shot goes for a s**t, no matter what the calibre or the quality of marksman that shoots it. When it does, have 'fun' going into the willows to finish yer handy work, with a quarter-bore.... Just remember that other folks use the woods too and so one would hope that a griz gets dropped hard, quick and fast. If a hunter figures a quarter-bore is griz medicine, I pray the hunter makes darn sure the job gets done right.
Yah, I grant it makes for great story telling - "I shot griz with this! Can you believe that?" Takes cahones in my books so good on the hunter for doing it. Not my preferred method of harvesting an ursus horribilis.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Agreed, nice bear! I've shot right through a couple dozen deer with my old 257 and 120 gr, NP's at 2800 fps. Seldom recovered a bullet and expansion was v. good. Should kill a Grizzly, but why the stunt? I'd rather use my .35 Whelen if faced with that type of game.
Ltbull01 said:Of course I can be told that right placement, right round, etc., and I can also paint my body blue and go after a boar with a fire-hardened stake!
Every once in a while, a shot goes for a s**t, no matter what the calibre or the quality of marksman that shoots it. When it does, have 'fun' going into the willows to finish yer handy work, with a quarter-bore.... Just remember that other folks use the woods too and so one would hope that a griz gets dropped hard, quick and fast. If a hunter figures a quarter-bore is griz medicine, I pray the hunter makes darn sure the job gets done right.
Yah, I grant it makes for great story telling - "I shot griz with this! Can you believe that?" Takes cahones in my books so good on the hunter for doing it. Not my preferred method of harvesting an ursus horribilis.
Which rifle would you feel "comfortable" going in after a wounded grizz with?
You can be assured that there are not too many cartridges on the market that will "stop" a grizz in the thick stuff without one of 3 things happening:
1. CNS Shot
2. CNS Shot
3. Luck... the bear turns at the shot
I had a large black bear last year run with his entire front leg hitting him on the back, with a hole the size of my fist through him and a good loonie sized exit hole (250gr Speer @ 15yds from my 35 Whelen).
A good fist shot is required whether you're shooting a 45/70 or a 6mm Rem.... and don't think that bullet diameter will replace that... cause it don't!
I applaud her for sticking with what she knows.. and what she could comfortably shoot.
I'm also glad she never listened to the many "internet experts" around here that have likely not seen a grizz at close range in the bush, let along killed one!
1. Shot Placement
2. Bullet Construction
3. Caliber
Quite simple really...
280_ACKLEY
smokin'stoegie
CGN Regular
- Location
- S/West Ontario
I've never shot a grizz' however I chuckle at the original post.
The lady did good if she dropped it with a 257, however I think the post was intended to fire up a debate, and it did
Lot's of valid comebacks, no flaming
The lady did good if she dropped it with a 257, however I think the post was intended to fire up a debate, and it did
Lot's of valid comebacks, no flaming
Since the 505 was designed to deal with pissed off Cape Buffalo and Africian efephants, both of which would send you home in a VERY small box; I think thaty it would fill the ticket nicely!!1899 said:
I agree though, make you first shot count!!
troutseeker
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Prince George, BC
Nice shooting, what's the big fear of the Grizzly for???
Troutseeker
Troutseeker
Gatehouse said:We debate cartrdiges alot here, of course...But in the end it's relaly about placement and projectile performance.
25 caliber too small for grizzly? Tell that to Terri
Ya know, hunting season is a bit slow up here right now so I don't give a #### what she shot it with. I'm just happy someones out in the bush doing what I want to be doing.
Two thumbs way up Terry!!! Congrats
