.270 complement?

Now that you have the 7600 in .270, why not keep your eye open for a 7600 in 35 whelen.
The .270 will work fine for hunting most wild life but the whelen will give you that extra smacking power if you all of a sudden think you need it.
Both excellent calibers to hunt with.
 
I'm running an A-bolt 30-06 as my main rifle right now. My son, who is just getting into hunting, will be receiving a nice Christmas gift - I got a deal on a great condition older 7600, with the carved stocks, and I just landed a nice scope to top it off. With this in mind, I'm now giving some thought to unloading the ott6 to add a heavier option to the stable for my moose and (hopefully someday) elk hunts. I'm leaning towards a 300mag. I'm predominantly a waterfowler, and burn through lots of 3.5" 12, so recoil is not a worry. My thinking is I'll use my son's 270 for deer opener (brush), then switch to the other when he comes out for the rest of the season, and have a boomer for the bigger stuff.

Opinions?

A 3.5" 12 gauge is not a 300 Win Mag. Don't even get the two confused. Too many people think that the next logical step up from the 30-06 is a 300 but in reality that step is a big one, not a small increment. Your '06 will handle moose and elk just fine so there really isn't any benefit in your situation. The way I read your post, you're mostly a waterfowler and shoot a few rounds of CF rifle a year for deer hunting. Is that fairly accurate? If so, stepping up to a 300 WM is not for you right now.
 
Later in life you will find yourself wiser and less recoil tolerant,going full circle in gun choices.Back from the train stopping magnums and shooting guns that are pleasant to shoot and work.A friend's dad bought himself a T3 in a .338 win mag as a first gun as the group he hunted with all had one after we tried to talk him into a 30-06.He is terrified of his gun and either doesn't shoot when game shows up,misses or wounds what he shoots at.The recoil was so brutal in this gun the laminated stock split after less than a box of shells.Way too light for the caliber it's in........Harold
 
Later in life you will find yourself wiser and less recoil tolerant,going full circle in gun choices.Back from the train stopping magnums and shooting guns that are pleasant to shoot and work.A friend's dad bought himself a T3 in a .338 win mag as a first gun as the group he hunted with all had one after we tried to talk him into a 30-06.He is terrified of his gun and either doesn't shoot when game shows up,misses or wounds what he shoots at.The recoil was so brutal in this gun the laminated stock split after less than a box of shells.Way too light for the caliber it's in........Harold

3000 fps with a 160 gr in 270 win. That's...impressive

Yep....and a good example of why you cant believe everything you see or read. BUT if you dont have #49...definitely a proper load for your rifle of H4831 and 160gr Partitions in a .270 Win performs very well.
 
I do agree a 300 wm really isn't a big step up from the 30-06. Any rifle chambered for the 300 wm is most likely chambered in the 06 as well for the most part. Unless you need an ultra flat shooting round or stopping big bears and dangerous game a magnum really isn't needed. Just increase bore diameter and bullet weight. But then again if you want a magnum the 300 wm is great. Not as cool as the 300 HH but just as effective. I enjoy shooting my 300wm. My buddies 300 rum gets old quick
 
All the years I played with my 270 I thought I was doing something wrong. I could only get 26 and change out of mine.

26 and change is what you should expect from a very conservative starting load for h4831 with a 160gr Partition; If it shoots accurately for you -- it will be an excellent and dependable hunting load! and one that I would be very pleased to use. Personally I think its better than a more frangible 130gr running several hundred fps faster. Anything around 2700 fps is a good place to be imo.


Not that I am recommending you try to but I think you may be surprised how close some guys can get to 2900fps with the 160 (and slightly better) even with a 24" barrel. 3000fps ... agreed - it is very unlikely ... but I posted that to show what a 'Chrony' can indicate -- which doesnt make it gospel! NOR CORRECT! And certainly not a velocity someone should try to load for. When I saw the reading I was pretty damn surprised -- and offered to sell my 'optimistic' Chrony to a friend for a premium!! The only thing that matters is what your rifle and cartridge tell you ---not the number the Chrony illustrates... or what other guys on the internet say you (or they) get in terms of velocity. Caution is key as you well know!
 
I have heard of very few people who regretted moving up to one of the 30 cal magnums. They represent possibly the finest all around caliber and cartridges for hunting any NA big game, save maybe the biggest of the bears, and they also work pretty good on these too. I have used 4 of the big 30s over the years to harvest 100s of big game animals on several continents and can tell you that I have never wished I had a larger gun, nor can I say, with a couple exceptions, that I wished I had a smaller gun. I have taken game from 10 lbs to more than 2000 lbs with 300 mags. It just works !!!
The recoil is manageable in a 7-8 lb rifle which carries nice all day, and "reaching out to touch something" at 500 mtrs is a no brainer on a calm day with a good rest. What I can also say though, is that if you never shoot at game beyond 200 mtrs and this is the maximum of your shooting comfort zone, you will likely see very little difference from your '06, given the same impact point, on ungulates. I like to go afield with all my bases covered whether it's a medium sized grizzly at spitting distance or a good ram at 5-600 mtrs or anything in between, and there are very few cartridges that cover this style of hunting.......the 300 magnums make up most of the cartridges in this category, and the 300 Win is right near the top of the list.

Just for the sake of trivia, I own and shoot a 300 WSM, 300 H&H, 308 Norma, 300 Win, 2 or 3 X 300 Wbys and a 300 RUM, and I just bought, but don't have in my hands yet, a Rem model 7 stainless synthetic in 300 SAUM.........the only two I have not taken game with are the 308 NM and the 300 H&H, both of which are relatively new to me. You might say I'm a bit of a 300 fan..........incidentally I have a couple '06s too, but as I recall, I only ever shot one moose with an '06.
I have always said I am a much better shot than a tracker so I like game to be laying right where they were standing before the loud bang, and the 300 magnums seem to do this very, very well and on game they are not likely to handle in this way, I usually use a 375 H&H to the same effect, or the "ultimate one rifle hunter cartridge" ........THE 340 WEATHERBY MAGNUM !!!!!!!
 
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I'm trying to be a more positive person lately 'Looky, and avoid commenting on those things that I can find nothing positive to say, like anything with a .277 bore.......................
 
For a lot of years I was a 06 shooter (with 165 grainers) and found great success out to 400 yards. In more recent years I've found myself grabbing the 300WSM and find it a better rifle for shooting 180 grain bullets. If there is an increase in Recoil I haven't noticed it.
 
I'm trying to be a more positive person lately 'Looky, and avoid commenting on those things that I can find nothing positive to say, like anything with a .277 bore.......................

Baby steps! ...... It's a start. :) :)

Ephesians 4:29 (ERV)

29 When you talk, don’t say anything bad. But say the good things that people need—whatever will help them grow stronger. Then what you say will be a blessing to those who hear you.
 
I'm trying to be a more positive person lately 'Looky, and avoid commenting on those things that I can find nothing positive to say, like anything with a .277 bore.......................

That bothered me so I solved the problem by putting a piece of tape over the chambering stamp that Bill put on the barrel.
 
I purchased a 300 win mag for elk and it SUCKS for recoil. I hunt a lot of waterfowl too, shooting an SBE 2 and it still kicks the cap out of me. I think your best bet would easily be keep the 3006. Deer, moose and elk, will drop them all no problem at all. I've seen elk run just as far shot with a 300 RUM as a 3006. It's simply shot placement. Keep your 3006, unless you just need an excuse for another gun.... Then buy a 7mm rem mag and keep the 3006!
 
I run my .270 for White-tail and Muley's, and pull out my .300winmag for Elk and Moose.

I'm lazy and don't like tracking something for more than ~100 yards, found I was doing that too often with a the .270 on Moose. I haven't had a moose go further than about 10 yards after getting hit with that 300 yet.

Moose don't take a lot of killing power. I think it's because they're not as loaded up on adrenaline as deer (no idea about elk). Even hit with a 30-30, huge bulls don't go far. Years ago, my wife shot a 7-year old cow moose with a 7.62 X 39, 3 shots in the lungs at 220 paces. If she hadn't gone after it, it would have been DRT. That being said, a 338 won't destroy any more meat than a 270 will, unless you hit the shoulder. With either gun, you can pretty well write off the front quarter if you do. It's all a question of druthers. Personally, I'm a fan of big chunks of lead, but there are millions of guys out there that like a lighter, fast-moving bullet. I figure they can't all be wrong. What I like about heavy, slower moving bullets is that you can eat right up to the hole.
 
A 300 win mag is a better choice for moose and elk in the hands of a good marksmen. 30-06 is a fine cartridge as well but lacks the down range energy that the big 300's have. If you already have use of a 270 win for deer, a 300 win mag would be a good choice.
 
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