.270 for a sniper?
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Farlsincharge
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The browning lever action sniper tactical, is definitely capable of this. Being an inexperienced shooter and using factory ammo, you may even be able to get down to half an inch at 400. The scope mounting options afforded by a lever action will be beneficial as well.
You need a reality check here. If you can put 5 shots into 6 inches at 400 consistently with this rifle, I would be surprised.
Your proposed equipment and your goals do not match.
If you are looking for a deer rifle that will work out to 400 yards, then yes this will work well. (you need to be capable of this as well. 300 yards is a cake walk, any further than that, you need to know what you are doing).
The original poster said he wanted a "hunting" rifle. He also said he didn't shoot long range competition. If you disagree that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. I answered his question as honestly as I could and i am of the opinion that my reply is probably of more practical use to the OP than some of the other advice garnered, but that is just my opinion and i don't really care enough to get into a pissing match.
you do realize by asking for a rifle to perform 1 inch at 400 you are asking for a 1/4MOA rifle which are quite rare unless purpose built to be 1/4MOA guns. After that you need to be shooter capable of those groups which are also quite rare in your average shooter. I can count the number of 1/2MOA groups i've seen produced by average joe's on 1 hand (none were mine BTW the best I ever shot was 2 MOA with my norc m14). It's not easy to shoot that well. It's easy to forget online, especially in precision rifle forums where you are surrounded by F-class shooters who shoot awesome all day long. As to the BLR I think the best mine in .308 would be capable of is around 1MOA. I've never fired it from a bench so i have no idea what it is capable of.
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That expectation is not at all realistic for a "hunting" rifle.Such accuracy can only be expected from a specialty built target rifle and a very experienced long range shooter.
The simple fact is that the original poster has no idea at all what it takes to achieve the level of precision that he is talking about.
Sir - if you can find yourself a BLR on this planet that shoots a 1/4MOA, then hereby volunteer to eat an entire Costco LMP, including the plate, on youtube.
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I love these threads. I knew it would be comedy gold simply judging from the title. 
Hmm I had such high hopes that i wouldn't get my ass flamed off for this.
No I don't shoot competitivly . YET. when i start i will get a purpose built rifle. for now i want to have fun. You guys are sucking that out of me.. thanks for that. I have no problem with you telling me i'm unrealitic in my expectations, it's the way in which SOME of you are doing it. I don't need my ass torn off. I've doen alot of practice with my savage 110 in .30.06 out to 400 yards and have done quite well with it. I'm too lazy to walk that far bu my range has an 8 inch 6 inch and 4 inch gongs at 400 yards that i will hit 9 out of 10 times. So i will restate my question one more time..
Will I be able to do the same with the blr in a .270? It's all about having fun for me and hitting those gongs makes me happy in the pants lol. i think icould hit them 10 out of 10 if i wasn't so impatient and let my barrel cool more as my rifle gets hot very fast and looses it's accuracy very quickly when i'ts warm.
As i've said before. no matter what you guys say i will get the .270 for hunting and i will take it to the range for practice. and i knwo i will love it. I'l let you know how it does. I was just hoping someone would have some 1st hand experience that could give me their 2 cents... so thanks for reading, thanks for your time.
No I don't shoot competitivly . YET. when i start i will get a purpose built rifle. for now i want to have fun. You guys are sucking that out of me.. thanks for that. I have no problem with you telling me i'm unrealitic in my expectations, it's the way in which SOME of you are doing it. I don't need my ass torn off. I've doen alot of practice with my savage 110 in .30.06 out to 400 yards and have done quite well with it. I'm too lazy to walk that far bu my range has an 8 inch 6 inch and 4 inch gongs at 400 yards that i will hit 9 out of 10 times. So i will restate my question one more time..
Will I be able to do the same with the blr in a .270? It's all about having fun for me and hitting those gongs makes me happy in the pants lol. i think icould hit them 10 out of 10 if i wasn't so impatient and let my barrel cool more as my rifle gets hot very fast and looses it's accuracy very quickly when i'ts warm.
As i've said before. no matter what you guys say i will get the .270 for hunting and i will take it to the range for practice. and i knwo i will love it. I'l let you know how it does. I was just hoping someone would have some 1st hand experience that could give me their 2 cents... so thanks for reading, thanks for your time.
I have had several BLRs in my day, three 308s, a 358, and a 243. All were good shooters for a hunting rig, but it took a lot work to get them any where near MOA. All of them were an easy 1.5 to 2 MOA, which for the purpose this gun was designed is rather good. I don't think 1/4 MOA is a reasonable expectation, BUT with a bit of load development and some tweaking on the rifle, and if the moon and stars align, you MIGHT get lucky.
Above all else, have fun and shoot! That is all that really matters!
Above all else, have fun and shoot! That is all that really matters!
Exactly - which just goes to show that my original post was appropriate - he wants a hunting rifle not a long range target rifle.
I did not say a BLR was a suitable long range target rifle. I said that a .270 BLR would make a good hunting rifle. Why do you need to get in my face about that?
According to his expectations,he want a rifle capable of 1" groups at 400 yards,therefore he wants lever action long range target rifle that he can hunt with.
On the other hand - according to your expectations he should be using a precision long range heavy barreled target rifle when he goes hunting, although you realise 100% that he is a newb and that combo is not what he wants or what he needs.
He's looking for a hunting rifle. It's not rocket science Stubby.I was going by the OP's expectations not mine.The only gun that would meet his accuracy expectations would be a precision target rifle.What he wants,simply doesn't exist.
He is looking for a lever action hunting rifle with the accuracy of a precision target rifle,no such gun exists,so he won't get what he is looking for.Figuring that out is certainly not rocket science.
Exactly - you already realise his expectations for that HUNTING rifle are impossible, so why not give a newb a break?
Like cars, some go fast, some handle well, some look good, some stop fast, some go fast with little horsepower but good gearing some with lots of horsepower but bad gearing, Making an accurate rifle that meets ALL the criteria required to become a sniping rifle is beyond comprehension, really, to mention a few, temperature (ambient) long and lat, barometric pressure, humidity, altitude, distance from the equator, when you start adding all this together, a bullet has to be the right length, and diameter and weight and density to be affected the very least by all these factors that change in every situation. Shooting at -30celcius at 4000meters is completely different than shooting at 45 celcius at 100m above sealevel in 100% humidity, so to just assume that such and such a bullet would work is just that an assumption. I can't imagine how many diffenrent calibres and home many millions have been spent on studying what would be the most accurate sniping rifle calibre in most situations. The one that does it all well will most likely not be the one that does one the best, like cars, the one that goes the fastest may not be the one that handles the best. All just a few thoughts to consider. For me I am happy with 223, 308 and 300 win mags.
