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Just purchased new 270 gevelot brass and the bullets don't sit in the neck on their own when trying to seat a bullet. I have to hold them while raising them in the seating die. A few of them changed the color/shade (shinier) of the brass on the neck where the bullet is seated. Stress on the neck?

Any one have experience with this brass?
 
bryan35 said:
Just purchased new 270 gevelot brass and the bullets don't sit in the neck on their own when trying to seat a bullet. I have to hold them while raising them in the seating die. A few of them changed the color/shade (shinier) of the brass on the neck where the bullet is seated. Stress on the neck?

Any one have experience with this brass?
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I would have to check but I think this brass is pretty thick(necks/walls). I use it in my .264 Win Mag and it is very good. I don't shoot that rifle or load for it often but I'm pretty sure it's on the thick side.
 
BwanaDave said:
it is on the thick side so develop your loads carefully, I find it has less capacity than some others = higher pressures
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The seller says load 5% lower of a charge so the brass must be thicker. Relatively new to reloading and all the loading I've done the bullets didn't have to be held on the neck to be seated.
 
You FL resize, check lengths, trim as required and chamfer and deburr? All new brass requires it. New brass is not ready to load. The chamfer gives the bullet a place to sit.
 
I use Gevelot brass in my 6.5x55 and I quite like it, it seem to be quite good quality.
I would agree with the chamfer, I always give the case mouth a quick inside / outside de-burr, especially new brass. Don't go crazy grinding away, just zip, zip, you're done. Helpful especially with flat base bullets, I have seen the bullet get scraped by a rough case mouth.
Is Gevelot even around anymore? I thought they were long gone.....
 
kawicrash said:
I use Gevelot brass in my 6.5x55 and I quite like it, it seem to be quite good quality.
I would agree with the chamfer, I always give the case mouth a quick inside / outside de-burr, especially new brass. Don't go crazy grinding away, just zip, zip, you're done. Helpful especially with flat base bullets, I have seen the bullet get scraped by a rough case mouth.
Is Gevelot even around anymore? I thought they were long gone.....
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Don't think they still are making them but can be purchased.

Swedish Brass-
http://www.higginsonpowders.com/images/Winchester_2014.pdf
 
I've used Gevelot brass for the 308, less capacity, more like military brass. However, before loading for the first time I run it over the neck expander portion of my die or just up the mandrel of a Lee collet die. I don't size it, just run it up to smooth out any roughness in the neck, then chamfer, inside and out. If you have the time to de-burr the flash hole, turn necks and weigh separate you'll be pleased with the results but that's true with any brass. I may have been the last person to purchase the 308 lot from Higginson's a couple of years ago. Very cheap and has a good life span. It doesn't compare to, but is a fraction of the price of Lapua.
 
bryan35 said:
Didn't make a difference. Bullet still doesn't sit in the neck by itself.
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Are you using flat base bullets? A boat tail will fit in the case mouth, but a flat base shouldn't drop in anyway. Do you reload other cartridges where the bullet will sit inside the mouth? If a case mouth was so loose that a bullet would slip in, you would have to crimp the bullet. I'm assuming being a .270 that it's a hunting load, so a crimp wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
kawicrash said:
Are you using flat base bullets? A boat tail will fit in the case mouth, but a flat base shouldn't drop in anyway. Do you reload other cartridges where the bullet will sit inside the mouth? If a case mouth was so loose that a bullet would slip in, you would have to crimp the bullet. I'm assuming being a .270 that it's a hunting load, so a crimp wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Yes they are flat based bullets. Now that I checked everything else that I have reloaded has been boat tails or "tapered" bases except for a few 303 rounds. They were from some used once fired brass and the bullets balanced on the necks when seating.

Other than the few 303's I've never loaded any flat based bullets.

After some reading it seems that holding the bullet until it enters the seating die is what some people do. Chamfering is also suggested.
 
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These are what they look like. The last two on the right are slightly didcolored at the tip of the neck. The other 18 out of 25 I loaded are fine.





 
That's interesting that scuffs are different lengths. Is the seating plug dragging or galled? What kind of dies? Did you try another brand of brass?
Maybe the necks are very thick brass? Do you have a caliper to check the outside diameter and neck wall thickness?
 
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