270 or 7mm-08

Woodsman said:
7mm08 bleh!:puke: .270 is the ###ier of the two. ( I can't come up with any practical difference between the two. So an emotional response is the only one I can come up with!:D)
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270 is long action and 7-08 is short action. That is a very practical difference for me. I'm a fan of light weight short action rifles for carrying around.
 
Woodsman said:
7mm08 bleh!:puke: .270 is the ###ier of the two. ( I can't come up with any practical difference between the two. So an emotional response is the only one I can come up with!:D)
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As certain as death and taxes, one will find Woodsman somewhere in each 7mm-08 thread :D
...So tell us Woodsman why all the hate for this round? ...did a 7mm-08 cartridge bully you as a child? ...Did you come home early from work one day to catch a shiny 7mm-08 cartridge in bed with your wife? :eek: :p
...there has to be a reason for the hate bro ;)

J/K and Cheers,
Mad Mikey :p
 
I knew some of you would get your girlie knickers in a knot! That's why!:D

I just don't like these Johnny-come-lately versions that don't bring anything new to the party other than "now we have an American version" of old tried and true classic performers (i.e. 7x57 Mauser. 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser). Now those old rounds have class!;)
 
stubblejumper said:
If you run out of ammunition on a hunt,or forget to bring any and must depend on finding some at a rural store,you haven't planned very well.I have never had either happen in over 30 years of hunting.
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Ever left your wallet at home when you went to work? Ever forgot where you put your keys? I haven't forgot ammo when hunting. . .yet, but I recognize that it is a possibility.

Unless you run a checklisted, regimented procedure everytime you pack up, it's going to happen sometime or another.
 
Woodsman said:
I knew some of you would get your girlie knickers in a knot! That's why!:D

I just don't like these Johnny-come-lately versions that don't bring anything new to the party other than "now we have an American version" of old tried and true classic performers (i.e. 7x57 Mauser. 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser). Now those old rounds have class!;)
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I love the 7-08 round soooooo much :D I don't know what I would of done without it! No other cartridge could possibly compare to the merit and sucsesses of the 7-08. Who ever does not have at least one 7-08 in their collection is surely missing out on one of the greatest achievements in ballistic history!:stirthepot2: You speak of class?:eek: What could be classier than one of the greatest no nonsense military cartirdges, necked down for even greater efficiency? I'll put one of my "classy" 7-08 rifles against your 7x57 or 6.5x55 any day,;) but wasn't this thread about 7-08 vs. .270?:confused: :slap:
 
Unless you run a checklisted, regimented procedure everytime you pack up, it's going to happen sometime or another.
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I do have a checklist that I use before leaving on a trip.And as far as losing things go,if you are so unprepared as to forget your ammunition,you might forget to pack your gun,so ammunition may well not be an issue.
 
kimberman said:
I love the 7-08 round soooooo much :D I don't know what I would of done without it! No other cartridge could possibly compare to the merit and sucsesses of the 7-08. Who ever does not have at least one 7-08 in their collection is surely missing out on one of the greatest achievements in ballistic history!:stirthepot2: You speak of class?:eek: What could be classier than one of the greatest no nonsense military cartirdges, necked down for even greater efficiency? I'll put one of my "classy" 7-08 rifles against your 7x57 or 6.5x55 any day,;) but wasn't this thread about 7-08 vs. .270?:confused: :slap:
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Hey bud. Someone asked me why and I reponded. So what's with the confusion and slapping me in the head crap about?

I respect that you like this cartridge, after all many of the cartridges out there in use today all do about the same thing. They go bang and if you hit game in the right place, they all die too.

What's all this effiency talk about? We're comparing a few grains of powder from one to the other. I could argue that the older classics handle heavier bullets better (i.e. There's room for the longer cartridges in the magazine.) Half of one and more of the other...Woopie.

Anyhow... .270 is just ###ier. Long and sleek vs. the fat and stubby 7mm-08.:D The 7mm-08 is like a short fat arz chick with a nice face.:p If that's what you like, who am I to argue?
 
First of all, congratulations for wanting to pass on a great tradition to a new generation. My own knee jerk reaction is to choose the 7-08 over the .270 for a young shooter, but if I were to choose between the .308 and .30/06, I wouldn't automatically choose the .308, so perhaps the question requires a bit more thought.

There are a number of elements which should be examined. Store bought ammo is available for both cartridges in most areas, so in terms of availability there is no advantage to either choice. While either may properly be referred to as a 7mm, due to the slightly smaller bore size of the .270; factory ammunition is loaded with big game constructed bullets in weights that fall into the varmint bullet construction with the 7-08. While at first glance this might seem to be an advantage due to less recoil in favor of the .270, in reality the larger powder column the factory loads with lighter bullets will make up for the lesser bullet weight. Therefore the difference in recoil will be so slight as to be noticeable only when shooting the two bullet weights alternately.

Is it possible to handload the ammunition? Any centerfire cartridge can be handloaded, and this question has greater significance than does the question of cartridge choice between similar rounds. Handloading can allow the youngster to grow into the recoil of any cartridge. Shooting handloads, particularly with cast bullets, is inexpensive and allows much more shooting per dollar. The youngster will benefit from the greatest possible exposure to shooting. Handloaded, the .270 has the advantage over the 7-08 as it can be loaded to a broader range of velocities with any given bullet weight. But if handloading is an option, perhaps the .280 Remington or .284 Winchester are better choices of 7mm cartridge than either the 7-08 or the .270.

The 7-08 is a short action round which is an advantage over the .270 in that short action rifles can be lighter and shorter, or of equal weight and length with longer barrels than long action rifles. Depending on the size of the kid, and the type of country hunted this may or may not be so important, provided that the rifle is not too heavy to pack around. Several manufactures offer youth models, but these are not necessarily the best option. A wood stocked rifle can be easily shortened to fit the young shooter, and then spacers can be added to the stock as he grows. A good quality pad should be installed regardless of the cartridge the rifle is chambered for. A short youth model is difficult to add length to as the kid grows. Another consideration is that as the late teens occur, the rifle might have to be lengthened significantly if the kid is long and gangly, but then as he enters early adulthood the stock might have to be once again shortened as he gains mass in his chest and shoulders.

Lastly, I suggest that he get the best quality rifle that can be afforded. Buying a high quality used rifle trumps buying an inexpensive rifle off the rack, yet the cost could be similar. Since the stock will have to be shortened in any case, the rifle can be bedded while at the gunsmiths, and if a good set of iron sights don't come with the rifle, I would consider them a worth while addition.
 
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