.270 or 7mm ?

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Hi, Just new to this website. Looks like and intersting place to be. It was recommended to me by someone at a use gun store.

I am just getting into big game in southeast British Columbia. I am looking to hunt moose, elf, bear, mule, white tail, etc over the years to come.

I am looking for a very good vesatile riffle that will satisfy all my needs. Talking with the guys I have been out hunting with I have been asking them what they think would be best, as I am not really in the know on this one.

I have been told .270 and 7MM, bolt action, would be my best choice. I am leaning towards a 7MM with a 9X scope.

It has also been suggested that I should be able to pick up a good clean, generally un-marked Remington or Winchers with scope and strap for approximalet $500 to $700 canadian, which is my price range for my first riffle. I plan to buy this riffle and use it for many years.

There are also a number of new gun manufacturers that appear to be manufacturing some pretty nice reliable guns that stack up pretty good against the old Remingtons and Winchesters, but it is difficult to sort through the good and the not so good.

I would appreciate anyones comments regarding the .270 and 7MM and Remington, Winchester vs some of these new manufacturers.

Thanks in advance for you comments.

Moosemeat.
 
7mm what?..BR, IHMSA or Ultra Mag?

OK..let's assume we are talking about the 7mm Remington Magnum...either it or the 30-06 will do nicely...as for Remington or Winchester...don't forget to check out Ruger, Savage, Tikka and others. You'll get good and bad comments regarding all of them.
 
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get a stainless 30-06, top it with as good of a 3-9x40 scope as you can afford, shoot a premium 180 grain bullet, and go hunting
 
moosemeat said:
I am just getting into big game in southeast British Columbia. I am looking to hunt moose, elf, bear, mule, white tail, etc over the years to come.

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Since you are new to hunting I will warn you, shooting an elf is bad bad ju ju.


7mm mag is a great all around round, but there are also lots of other great all around calibres too. 270, 270 WSM, 7mm WSM, 280, 308, 30 06, 300 WSM, 300 mag. All these calibres would be a fine choice.

Look around at rifles first, find one that fits you. Tikka T-3's are awesome, but I personally don't like the feel of them shouldered. A comfortable rifle should be your first goal.
 
moosemeat said:
I am just getting into big game in southeast British Columbia. I am looking to hunt moose, elf, bear, mule, white tail, etc over the years to come.
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Elfs and mules taste real tough and your never seem to draw a tag.....:p

Seriously, I am a big fan of the 270. It is good to go for most of your hunting needs. A 7mm Rem Mag is also a fine cartridge. To be honest, shot placement and bullet construction is likely more important than which caliber. The 270 might have an edge on cost of ammo but not by much. Find a good rifle on the equipment exchange board and hit the range and PRACTICE......most hunter probably don't practice as much as they should......

Cheers

Jeff
 
I have been using a 270wsm on all the game you mentioned,without any probleems.
 
todbartell said:
get a stainless 30-06, top it with as good of a 3-9x40 scope as you can afford, shoot a premium 180 grain bullet, and go hunting
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Tod, why not sell him yours, you must be bored of it by now!:p ;)

If it is just between the 270 and 7mm I'd go with the 7mm for all but the Elves and Mules.:D

I likely sound like a broken record here but don't overlook the smaller 7mm's her too. Like the 7-08 if you don't reload. If you do reload, go 7x57 Mauser.

I used to load for a Hunting guide who sold his 25-06 and 338 Win Mag to just carry his middle of the road 280 Rem. She isn't fancy but they just plain work.

If you are new to the firearms world perhaps find someone in your area who has what you think you might ike and give it a try to see before commiting.
We who live on budgets need to make the best decision the first time.;)

As far as which rifle to go for, find what fits your reach best for comfort as well as sight/target aquisition.
Heck, go back to the used gun shop and fondle everything you can get your hands on.

Instead of a Remchester, don't overlook the classics too. If you aren't worried about sentimental value in a rifle don't go classic, leave them for the rest of us! LOL

riden, you are too funny!:D

Enjoy your quest, don't get in a rush as hard as it is.

Noel
 
Given that this is your first hunting rifle you should take into consideration:

1) Your ability to handle recoil (heavy recoil rifles would likely promote bad shooting habits, which may take a long time to correct)
2) Ammo availability and cost (assuming you don't reload)
3) How well does the rifle fit you

A .270 is a sensible starter for big game hunting. A 30-06 is also a good alternative as many have suggested.

Have fun!

Danny
 
308, and 7mm08 if your game is primarily smaller animals, and a 338 for the bigger ones :D If you can take the recoil of the 338 win mag, I'd highly recommend it as an 'all around'-er for the game types you mention.
 
The more I hunt and shoot, the less I can say that the caliber of he cartridge matters- to a degree.

i have killed alot of animals wiht the 7RM, and a number wiht the 270, and i can't say that one did remarkedly better than the other, although the 7RM has the advantage of bigger bullets for heavier game, when the chips are down...

With todays excellent bullets, I think the difference between 7-08/308/30-06/7RM are pretty blurred out to 300 yards or so...

me? I'd take the 7RM. if JOC was a little less of a recoil poofter, I bet he woudl have carried around one of the 7mm mags rather than his beloved 270.:p
 
Practically all the cartridges mentioned here will get it done. If I were choosing between the two you mention and wanted to go for larger game I would get the 7mm RM for it's ability to handle heavier bullets. I was faced with the same choice a month ago and now have a 7mm RM.
 
I think there are allot of valid points above, especially the comment on shoot placement vs. caliber. They are both great guns, I hunt deer and moose with a .270 but the 7mag has a little more punch. It also has a little more kick.
As for guns the Savage 111FCXP3 is great gun with a 3-9 scope already on it for 430 bucks at whole sale sports, and it comes in .270, .30-06, 7mm or .300mag.

Good luck!
 
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