.270 vs. 7mm Rem Mag vs. longer range calibers?

Is the belt on the magnum cartridge a problem? Do some people not like the belts?
You will have no troubles at all with a belted cartridge. They have worked well for shooters for many decades. Saying that, there are some who have unfounded personal bias against belted cases for no practical reasons.
 
Hello there!

I am looking for a first rifle that will handle deer, moose, and elk. I have hunted with other guns in the past but now I want one of my own. Looking for a caliber that can reach out to 300-400 yards. I have done a fair bit of comparison on ballistics and the .270 and 7mm Rem Mag seem like some of the flattest shooting with very good ballistic coefficients. Also want to avoid the kick of some of the larger magnum calibers like the 300 win mag, 338 win mag, etc.

What does CGN think?

I hunt with a cartridge that easily out preforms the 270 win and 7 rem mag.

Didn’t make any elk magically appear.

As has been said platform some rifles are just plain nice to hunt with.
 
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I ran a 7mm Rem Mag quite a few moons ago, an A-Bolt. It was a step up from my "starter" BLR In .308 when I was sixteen.

I will agree with other members posts on here about it being fairly flat and fast, i never felt wanting more while I carried it afield. I found that particular A-Bolt absolutely loved reloads with Nosler 150gr BTs and 120gr Sierras for "plinking" as its' steady diet. It's "one of those rifles I should have never sold"

Since then I've carried a Savage 116 270, Rem 700 300WM, T3 Lite 300 WSM and currently just a plain jane Rem 30-06 Mtn SS. All of the above cals will take game humanely given correct shot placement.

Best advice I can give is, to go with a tolerable recoil caliber as your first setup, then get some bench and field time behind it. Better to get good shooting fundamentals down over developing a flinch of with a magnum caliber first. You can always move up or down the caliber range if you feel the need to do so later.

That said, .270Win out of your two options
 
The 270 and 7mm rem are excellent cartridges, you can't go wrong either way. As you mentioned recoil, the 270 loaded with 110gr ttsx will be as flat shooting as you would ever need and would be an excellent deer round with not much recoil. For moose and elk load up some 150 gr bullets and your good to go. In a lightweight rifle the 270 would have an advantage over 7mm rem. I have a 270 kimber mountain ascent that weighs 5lb 3oz that doesn't know that the 270 cartridge is inherently inaccurate like was mentioned in an earlier post. lol. If you don't mind packing a heavier rifle the 7mm will take any game on this continent.
 
Loading up some pressure test loads for a brand new 7mm Remington Magnum barrel. Belt and all. :)

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Loading up some pressure test loads for a brand new 7mm Remington Magnum barrel. Belt and all. :)

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Atta boy, Chuck! I'm also on the bench since yesterday. Loaded-up the "ever loving" 270 Win. Mag.;), 240 Weatherby Mag. and today, the 300 H&H Mag. One non-belted, two belted. No problem achieving head-space off-the-belt, had years of experience.
 
I shoot 7mm and it is good.Shoots very flat, and carries a lot of punch at the end.Hunting and target shooting are two different worlds.
Sometimes people forget that when you are hunting, and you finally find the critter and want to kill it, you don’t get to go out there and line up the critter at 300yds and wait for the wind to stop.You also want the critter to be dead (drop dead is nice), on your first shot if at all possible.
This is where the 7mm shines.When you finally find the critter, you can have confidence your 7mm is gonna reach out and hammer it with out having to worry much about wind, etc.With 150 grain zeroed to shoot 1 1/2” high at 100yds, you are good to go from 100 yds to 400 just by putting the crosshairs on and knowing your bullet has a lot of knock down at the other end.No need to fiddle with scope no sound, and other BS.
When I finally get as close as I can to that 4 point Muley, the last thing I want to do is think about my cartridge performance.
 
Not sure i posted in here, but wat i found wit the 7mm mag Was that at 400m and beyond, it was hitting as hard as the 7-08 at the muzzle, which was sweet for 300m... an the 'drops' were easier to use without actually clicking/dialing until your out at 400m...

so for me, i dont see the need for magnums in 80% general hunting scenerios for general fellas, but once ya start getting into doing something specific , out yonder, on big critters , then magnums come into play
 
I shoot 7mm and it is good.Shoots very flat, and carries a lot of punch at the end.Hunting and target shooting are two different worlds.
Sometimes people forget that when you are hunting, and you finally find the critter and want to kill it, you don’t get to go out there and line up the critter at 300yds and wait for the wind to stop.You also want the critter to be dead (drop dead is nice), on your first shot if at all possible.
This is where the 7mm shines.When you finally find the critter, you can have confidence your 7mm is gonna reach out and hammer it with out having to worry much about wind, etc.With 150 grain zeroed to shoot 1 1/2” high at 100yds, you are good to go from 100 yds to 400 just by putting the crosshairs on and knowing your bullet has a lot of knock down at the other end.No need to fiddle with scope no sound, and other BS.
When I finally get as close as I can to that 4 point Muley, the last thing I want to do is think about my cartridge performance.


So I plugged your numbers into a ballistic calculator and and with a 150 ballistic tip at 3200 you’re showing nearly 16 inches of drop at 400 sighted in for 1.5” high at 100. What loads are you using and have you ever verified your trajectory?
 
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