Yeah, sure, but this part hardly has anything to do with retrieval of a wounded animal, not to mention that a wounded animal - when being chased - will tend to run to the ends of the earth.
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Yeah, sure, but this part hardly has anything to do with retrieval of a wounded animal, not to mention that a wounded animal - when being chased - will tend to run to the ends of the earth.
I don't have time to read the whole thread, but for what it worth, a couple of years ago, Sweden have come out with rules stipulating energy a bullet must have at 100 meters for hunting.
For moose hunting, it is as follow;
For a 154 and plus grainer, the energy at 100m must be at least 2000 Joules (about 1500 foot-pounds)
For lighter bullets (between 139 and 154 grains), the muzzle energy must be 2700 Joules ('bout 2000 foot-pounds).
A 140 grainer must exit at about 2775 fps and a 154 grainer 2425 fps to meet the new rules.
The Swedes always prefered using the heavier 154 grains 6.5mm bullets for moose hunting.
ref; http://www.jagareforbundet.se/Utbildning/Hunting-in-sweden/#FAQ14314
For moose hunting, it is as follow;
For a 154 and plus grainer, the energy at 100m must be at least 2000 Joules (about 1500 foot-pounds)
For lighter bullets (between 139 and 154 grains), the muzzle energy must be 2700 Joules ('bout 2000 foot-pounds).
A 140 grainer must exit at about 2775 fps and a 154 grainer 2425 fps to meet the new rules.
The Swedes always prefered using the heavier 154 grains 6.5mm bullets for moose hunting.
ref; http://www.jagareforbundet.se/Utbildning/Hunting-in-sweden/#FAQ14314
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- Haliburton County, Central Ontario
An interesting way to hunt. We used to hunt ducks on the Midway at the CNE just like that in the 60s. Well, without the dogs. 
You would think so, however it is quite amazing how an animal that big can disappear in the bush. I know a very experienced moose hunter who last year tried to find a moose that had been wounded by a guy shooting a 30-06. They tracked the moose for hours, and never did find it. The blood disappeared, and the tracks eventually got mixed up in a bog with a bunch of older ones. Went back the next day and tried again, watching and listening for ravens, to no avail.
A dog might have been helpful there.
Ted
A dog might have been helpful there.
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- Northeast Ontario
I nearly tripped over the moose that I was tracking with my father quite a few years back. Without a big blood trail (archery kill..think internal bleeding) they dont' leave much sign for such a large animal .
the dogs are not used to retrieve animal ... there is blood hound for that.
in fact the dogs are used to push with handlers/beaters/trackers the game troughout the shooters line. this is the same way troughout most of europe countries.
because as said previously you cannot buy a tag, the tags are given to the hunting club or society and during every hunt (around the fire) the animals that you can shoot are given. ie wild boar below 50 kgs, red deer above 5x5, doe roe deer etc ...
for moose hunting in Scandinavia and in Finland they re using a dog that stay close to the moose and bark and you can shoot but this is different hunting method.
driven hunting is not for everybody and i prefer the way we hunt there.
Hi there. I have used the 6.5 * 55 in different rifles for years. I shot a 3 point Bull last season one shot bang flop with my Tikka M695 Master Trapper White Tail Hunter. The range was 308 yards up a cut block and my handload was a 140 gr Hornady Sp with 40 grains of IMR 4350. People use the Swedes because they work as intended and they are superbly accurate. Cheers.
Ya, what you say is true.
Velocity between the two cartridges is quite large. 130 grain .277 at 3100 fps versus 130 grain .264 at 2600 fps. Velocity is what causes expansion, for traditional bullets too much velocity = too much expansion. The more expansion the more resistance the more fragmentation the less penetration. This is why the slower 6.5 swede is a known slayer, it should out penetrate if all apples were created equal.....
Oddly enough over here in the UK thanks to a committee of idiots at BASC the Assoc of Chief police Officers have stated that the .270 is the minimum for wild boar, totally ignoring the fact that both cartridges can be loaded to produce identical energies and that the 6.5 swede is inadequate despite over 100 years of Europeans killing boar happily with the round. Funny thing is I disagree and its not law but a recommendation which our licensing police follow as if it was law. damn committees of idiots!
6.5X55 is huge in europe infact even browning markets rifles in that caliber for the euro market my family and friend in the UK that hunt mostly all use and love the 6.5 swede that along with 308,243, and 223 are the most popular rifle calibers in europe
My friend was a game warden in the former Yugoslavia and he shot truckloads of boar with a .243 and Barnes X bullets. They are, however, quite tough animals and there certainly is a difference between a yearling and a mud-caked 200kg boar.
