.270 Win vs .270 WSM
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blasted_saber
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I found mine too much for deer at the typical short ranges here and sold it after a few seasons. It was quite devastating on deer at sub 100m range.
It shot 140gr bullets the most accurate. It was a Winchester Model 70
It shot 140gr bullets the most accurate. It was a Winchester Model 70
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130grain ttsx works on everything from deer up to moose. Yes it may be a touch much on a deer at say 50 yards but you can say that about any modern magnum cartridge. Its a very capable all around cartridge flat shooting and with good bullets puts game down at all normal hunting distances
Your old 270win at 50 yards was probably too much for deer at that distance but it puts them down real quick. I'd rather have a few blown out ribs and a short blood trail than a small wound and a long blood trail. Just my 2 cents.
Your old 270win at 50 yards was probably too much for deer at that distance but it puts them down real quick. I'd rather have a few blown out ribs and a short blood trail than a small wound and a long blood trail. Just my 2 cents.
What is the cost difference in the rifle/ammo? For 5% speed increase?
I had somewhat similar experience. My 270 WSM would punch holes through deer like butter, no bullet expansion whatsoever. Had to track many deer that simply ran away hundreds of yards after a shot through the lungs. Don't use bonded bullets, they don't seem to expand at higher velocities. I used fusion 150 gr (bonded), but also used fed bluebox 150's & Winchester PP 150's, still wasn't satisfied. Although it brought down elk no problem. Ended up selling my 270 WSM due to this and bought a 30-06 instead.
*Plus, half the time the 270 WSM cartridge would "hang up" when cycling the bolt and chambering a new round. The cartridge shape (short fat casing and long skinny bullet) didn't cycle as reliable as non-WSM cartridges. I had to slow down the cycling process in order to avoid hangups. Another reason for selling. This was an Xbolt.
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Rifle? Nothing or close to it. Probably find a used one for cheaper than the normal 270 to boot. The Ammo though? Thats certainly more expensive, as is brass if you're reloading and need to buy it.
OP I really like the 270win, and really considered getting a 270WSM but at the end of the day I decided that the 270 spits pills plenty fast enough - my current load is a 130gr Interbond at 3050fps and I could go faster if I wanted. I decided that if I want to burn more powder, it should be combined with a larger bore diameter as well.
Yeah, I've hunted with a .270 Win and 7mm mag in the past and really liked them both. Looking forward to getting out to try the WSM and compare. I ordered a couple boxes of 150 grain Federal Fusion...hoping it's a good fit for deer. I also hunt with a .50 cal muzzleloader, so there's no such thing as "too much" for me unless it just doesn't do the job and bringing the deer down.
I've had a savage 11 270WSM for 20 years, no issues chambering a round, only holds 2 in the mag, combined with 150gr. win silvertips it's devastating on deer. No tracking required but can mess up a shoulder. Since getting a 308 3 years ago the WSM comes out generally less for deer and more for moose.
blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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This was exactly my experience. I got a 308 and sold the 270WSM within 3 years.
i love mine ,3 in total a browning ,win and a tikka, i have a tikka 300 wsm all so , of them shoot small 1 hole groups with their favorite load .I have plenty of different chamberings but use these 2 the most lately
Do you find them good for deer?
fade2black
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- Central Ontario
Great caliber, shoots a little flatter than the old 270win at slightly longer ranges. A bit more recoil too. Had a lot of trouble with reloading, sold it and went back to a 270 win.
Good to hear. With the price of the ammo, hopefully I can get it zeroed relatively easily.
I’m not sure the 270 would n can reach the same speeds as the 270wsm , from what I understand not when you start to use 140 and heavier projectiles
If load a 270 win hot it will have throat erosion also , and the 270 is to much for deer also , 243 , 257 roberts , 260 at great deerguns
If load a 270 win hot it will have throat erosion also , and the 270 is to much for deer also , 243 , 257 roberts , 260 at great deerguns
If new powders can make the 270win match the 270wsm, then logically new powders should also make the 270wsm faster. The wsm has a bigger case, therefore it should be capable of higher velocities.
If you're pushing 270win to 270wsm velocities your barrel life is probably not notably better or worse with either one? In fact, the smaller case of the 270win would make me think you need higher pressures to match the wsm, which I feel like could lead to the win having the shorter barrel life?
Using RL26 you could get above 3200 fps with 130 grain, 3170 with Eldx 145 and 3150 with 150. I did all that with no signs of overpressure and staying within the recommended loads by Alliant. There is a reason why the 270 wsm is on sale in many places. It is simply not needed any longer.
Yes the 270 can be very much for deer if you hunt at short distances with a 130 grain going over 3000. You can load 150 grain NP to around 2950-3000 fps and then you are stellar on many many big game species and not too destructive of meat in the woods at short distances. With that your mpbr should be around 300 yards.
